2023-24 Roster

[GoBearcats31]

Ohio AG now involved. At least as to Aziz. https://www.wcpo.com/sports/college-...ikely-unlawful

[Lobot]

Just shoot me. They’re going to change the rules for next season and still deny waivers this season.

https://on.ncaa.com/k09gi2t9

[GoBearcats31]

Since this has become the NCAA two-time waiver thread ...

West Virginia transfer RaeQuan Battle's waiver for immediate eligibility was denied by the NCAA, WVU announced yesterday. Looks like he spent two years ago Washington, two years at Montana State (whereas Aziz and Jamille each played two years at their first program, one at their second) and I guess he wasn't a grad transfer.

[Oldtimer_UC_fan]

Definitely matters what is printed on your chest as to whether the NCAA sides with you

Unfortunately, they make that very obvious.

[rickscott]

Definitely matters what is printed on your chest as to whether the NCAA sides with you

[Rufus]

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I think the lesson is being more broadly learned: there is a new interpretation of hardship to be eligible for undergrad second transfer waivers. Wes and his staff/compliance team believe the players meet the criteria and the NCAA says we are looking at it differently. This is the same story at more schools than just UC, and the NCAA is fairly even handed in the application. Where have you seen bias at blue chip schools? The only case I'm aware of is the UNC football player who won on appeal.

I wasn't talking specifically on the bias of the transfer waiver. I was referring to the bias, general disrespect, or the favoritism shown towards other problems as opposed to UC, especially as we are located literally between THE Ohio state and Kentucky ( who invented bball according to them)

[D.A.H.]

So as it stands right now, pending an appeal. Both Jamille Reynolds & Aziz Abandaogo are ineligible to play, pending an appeal.

If? Both are ineligible, this does not leave the Team with a ton of depth under the basket... That being said, if the ruling stands do both leave the team? I can't see either hanging around another year waiting to play.

If so, would we have (2) scholarships open?

even if either / both left, they'd still have to sit out a year - think it depends on what nil they're getting from uc, vs. what any other would offer

[Lobot]

Well they each have played 3 years. One of those years being the 20-21 Covid year. So I'm guessing the Covid year does not count, so if they sit this year they should each have 2 years? Anyone familiar with the Covid year policy please weigh in.

The way I understand it is that the Covid policy grants an extra year for players who we're in school during the '20-21 season.

Bandaogo was a freshman at Akron during '20-21 . 2 seasons there, one at Utah Valley. He should have 2 years left to play one plus a covid year if he wants to use it. He's a mid level NBA prospect right now so he may not use it.

Reynolds is in the same boat. He played 2 years at UCF with his freshman year in '20-21 and has 2 years to play one plus a COVID year if he wants it.

I think I've longwindedly agreed with you Ed.

Technically, both of them are coaching change casualties. Neither of their previous coaches returned to the school the players transferred from.

[GoBearcats31]

Team headshots

https://gobearcats.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster

[bearcated]

Well they each have played 3 years. One of those years being the 20-21 Covid year. So I'm guessing the Covid year does not count, so if they sit this year they should each have 2 years? Anyone familiar with the Covid year policy please weigh in.

[BearKatz]

So as it stands right now, pending an appeal. Both Jamille Reynolds & Aziz Abandaogo are ineligible to play, pending an appeal.

If? Both are ineligible, this does not leave the Team with a ton of depth under the basket... That being said, if the ruling stands do both leave the team? I can't see either hanging around another year waiting to play.

If so, would we have (2) scholarships open?

[red_n_black_attack]

CWM has just been given a lesson on the bias of the NCAA, ( if he were not aware before) and can probably appreciate even more the tradition that is bearcat basketball having experienced it first hand.

I think the lesson is being more broadly learned: there is a new interpretation of hardship to be eligible for undergrad second transfer waivers. Wes and his staff/compliance team believe the players meet the criteria and the NCAA says we are looking at it differently. This is the same story at more schools than just UC, and the NCAA is fairly even handed in the application. Where have you seen bias at blue chip schools? The only case I'm aware of is the UNC football player who won on appeal.

BTW - I do hope Aziz and JAmile win on appeal too.

[Lobot]

Justin Williams full article: ($)

https://theathletic.com/4975489/2023...aogo-reynolds/

[Rufus]

CWM has just been given a lesson on the bias of the NCAA, ( if he were not aware before) and can probably appreciate even more the tradition that is bearcat basketball having experienced it first hand.

[Lobot]

Here’s the full statement from Wes via Justin Williams.

https://x.com/williams_justin/status/1714658233204293828?s=46