BIg 12 close to title game

[Bearcats1232002]

"We're trying to work our way through it, but I'm less certain of the outcome than I was before," Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby told ESPN.com on Sunday, just hours after Oklahoma slid into the College Football Playoff at No. 4. "We don't think we ought to be forced into adding schools in order to have a championship game, but it could end up that way."

I actually feel some hope in the realignment arena for the first time in awhile.

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The Big 10 has filed an amendment to The Big 12 petition for a championship game waiver. Jim Delaney is our new best friend.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/14307386

No surprise here. Several Big 10 coaches (including Dantonio) have publicly stated that "you should have to win a CCG in order to get in to the playoff".
After watching Michigan State leapfrog Oklahoma into the #3 spot after their close win over Iowa, it's obvious that the Playoff Committee puts a lot of weight on conference championship games. That's not going to change even if the Big 12 is permitted to not have a CCG.

[Lobot]

The Big 10 has filed an amendment to The Big 12 petition for a championship game waiver. Jim Delaney is our new best friend.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/14307386

[bearcatbret]

And MSU lost to Nebraska by poor play but also by a fluke play at the end of the game that was enabled by horrible officiating. It is nice to see that bad officiating is not only in the American but all conferences and also in the NFL.

[blackattack]

Floride could knock off 'Bama too. I also wouldn't discount Mich St getting beat by Iowa. What do you do with a two loss Mich St who beat O$U and Michigan and Oregon? As much as there are complaints about the committee, I don't envy them their duty.

I don't envy them either. No matter what happens, it's going to be fun to watch. Let the chaos begin !

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Floride could knock off 'Bama too. I also wouldn't discount Mich St getting beat by Iowa. What do you do with a two loss Mich St who beat O$U and Michigan and Oregon? As much as there are complaints about the committee, I don't envy them their duty.

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Let's see if OU get's in after the Championship games this week. I cannot see a two loss team (Standford, ND, or Michigan State) getting in ahead of OU, nor do I see both O$U and the Big Ten Champ getting in along with Clemson/Alabama, but that was a very impressive win for the Luckeyes on the road Saturday. The OU win was equally if not more impressive to me, but we've all seen how the committee seems to be a bit anti-Big 12

I wonder what happens if UNC takes down Clemson?? They're capable of pulling it off. Does that open the door for Stanford, ND or O$U ?

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With Oklahoma's lopsided win over Okie State the Sooners should be in the CFP.
It will be interesting now to see if some of the Big12 officials who have been on record in favor of expansion start to back peddle now. Remember these aren't the most forward thinking people in the world.
Maybe Oklahoma's success will actually help push expansion since OU President David Boren has been one of the few outspoken in favor of expansion. I have my doubts though. We'll see

Let's see if OU get's in after the Championship games this week. I cannot see a two loss team (Standford, ND, or Michigan State) getting in ahead of OU, nor do I see both O$U and the Big Ten Champ getting in along with Clemson/Alabama, but that was a very impressive win for the Luckeyes on the road Saturday. The OU win was equally if not more impressive to me, but we've all seen how the committee seems to be a bit anti-Big 12

[blackattack]

With Oklahoma's lopsided win over Okie State the Sooners should be in the CFP.
It will be interesting now to see if some of the Big12 officials who have been on record in favor of expansion start to back peddle now. Remember these aren't the most forward thinking people in the world.
Maybe Oklahoma's success will actually help push expansion since OU President David Boren has been one of the few outspoken in favor of expansion. I have my doubts though. We'll see

[blackattack]

Latest CFP Rankings:

1) Clemson
2) Alabama
3) tOSU
4) ND
5) Iowa
6) Okie State
7) Oklahoma

Big 12 not getting a lot of love. Hard to imagine ND being left out if they win out.
Let the chaos begin !

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The CFP would be better if SOS metric had a second calculation to include all losses and then the top wins to include only 4-5 teams. you cannot penalize teams for their conference-mates ups and downs, nor does the RPI work in football due to limited number of games. To whom did you lose and what were your best wins, are the two questions to help compare teams to each other.

[red_n_black_attack]

So the Big 12 is getting interesting. OU beat Baylor this weekend and plays TCU this week. OSU plays Baylor. If the Oklahoma State loses this weekend or to OU in the Bedlam game , the conference is a mess and might get left out again because everyone would have at least one conference loss . Right now it looks like the PAC 12 is on the outside looking in but if everybody goes in the Big 12 into the last weekend with an L things get silly.

Noter Shame and Clemson are spoiling it for the P5. Noter Shame will get in because we all know the CFP selection committee weighs travel and money into their "eye test". I don't have a problem with that on Noter Shame this year because they have played and will continue to play a tough schedule. I do have a problem with Alabama being above an undefeated team from the P5 (O$U, Iowa, Ok. St). In my ideal world noter Shame loses to Standford, Clemson and Iowa lose in conference championship games and tO$U beats Mich State, then loses to Michigan and Houston is the only undefeated team in major college football. It would even be better if no P5 teams has fewer than 2 losses, but I don't see that happening with O$U and Clemson). Here's hoping 'Bama slips again.

No matter what, the whole CFP selection process should be blown up! Chaos is welcome, nothing new under the sun.

[98bearcat]

The latest I've seen is if Okie State wins out.. or Oklahoma wins out... either one will beat ND for the final spot (if ND wins out too)... But if Okie loses 1 game (and OK loses another) then ND will get the last spot...

[blackattack]

Yep it's going to be wild these last few weeks. I think most are assuming that if ND, Alabama, and Clemson all win out, they will be in. That only leaves one spot, and I have to believe that would go to the winner of the B1G Conference Championship game.

[Lobot]

So the Big 12 is getting interesting. OU beat Baylor this weekend and plays TCU this week. OSU plays Baylor. If the Oklahoma State loses this weekend or to OU in the Bedlam game , the conference is a mess and might get left out again because everyone would have at least one conference loss . Right now it looks like the PAC 12 is on the outside looking in but if everybody goes in the Big 12 into the last weekend with an L things get silly.