Our next great player.

[bearcatrunner]

I just think Jizzle has the talent to be the next Steve Logan. The kid is quick, makes some of the best passes of any of our players and creates his own shot. I think if we are going to have any shot of a final four in the next few years you start building around this kid right now. That means playing him and changing up the defense if you need to so you can get him on the court.

Did you know he shoots 37.2% from three which is second on the team behind Fredrick. He shoots 42.5 from the floor which is better then Simas (38.8%), Day Day (39%) and Skilling's(41.6%), He shoots 75% from the free throw line and he has a 2 to 1 turnover to assist ratio while always trying to get into the flow of the game because he comes off the bench for short moments. Day Day for the record is 3 assists to 2 turnovers. If he turns it over its because he trying to thread the needle most times to get easy points. Unlike Skilling's who just seemingly hands the ball to the other team or Day Day who just losses his dribble.

For the record I think Skilling's and Day Day both have a lot of talent. The coaching staff just lets them play out of control.

Do any of you see a potential superstar on this team for the future? It feels like we haven't had one in so long.

[red_n_black_attack]

Some of the better defensive coaches like Sampson at Houston recruit scorers and then teach defense. Wes seems to be following that mold, and we have proof in redshirting Rayvon. Further proof is the great progression Reed has shown from year 1 to year 2 on defense, and it is getting him significant playing time. Reed will be our next great defensive lockdown specialist like Newmann. Wes didn't have the luxury to redshirt Jizzle because of roster turnover last year that improved other positions. DayDay is doing better than Jizzle on defense and gets the nod.

You are correct, Jizzle will be a big star. I think Rayvon will be too. I think we will also see greatly improved defense from both next year. We didn't lose that game last night for lack of scoring. It wasn't really bad defense for the most part. Ok St is not usuallyu a great shooting team, but they were hot from beyond the arc last night. Tough pill to swallow losing to a much lower ranked Net team who was winless on the road in conference play, but sometimes the other team just hits the shots you expect them to miss.

[leo from jersey]

Some of the better defensive coaches like Sampson at Houston recruit scorers and then teach defense. Wes seems to be following that mold, and we have proof in redshirting Rayvon. Further proof is the great progression Reed has shown from year 1 to year 2 on defense, and it is getting him significant playing time. Reed will be our next great defensive lockdown specialist like Newmann. Wes didn't have the luxury to redshirt Jizzle because of roster turnover last year that improved other positions. DayDay is doing better than Jizzle on defense and gets the nod.

You are correct, Jizzle will be a big star. I think Rayvon will be too. I think we will also see greatly improved defense from both next year. We didn't lose that game last night for lack of scoring. It wasn't really bad defense for the most part. Ok St is not usuallyu a great shooting team, but they were hot from beyond the arc last night. Tough pill to swallow losing to a much lower ranked Net team who was winless on the road in conference play, but sometimes the other team just hits the shots you expect them to miss.

agreed - My opinion is that Josh Reed is the most improved player and a product of CWM teaching. One thing if you have bad defense and really want to win the game, what is your alternative. Mine would be outscore opponent who has a pathetic defense. Stop driving in one on two or three because even if they are poor defensively, the numbers usually win. You have little space to put up the ball. CWM knows the defense is putrid. He said as much on the post game. Offense becomes the key to victory and not just good offense, but more offense than your opponent. Since the defense was inept, how would you win the game?

[sedz]

Skillings has star potential. He's got NBA length and is still just a sophomore. He's improved in all areas of his game, and I'd expect that to continue going forward. You mentioned that he hands the ball to the other team, but he has the lowest turnover rate on our squad outside of CJ. When he does turn it over it looks wild, but in general he takes care of the ball. His shooting percentages, rebounding rate, assist rate, free throw rate, and steal rate are all up, while turnover and foul rates are down - all with increased usage. He still needs to work on his defense and awareness/staying in control when driving, but he's got the tools to become a superstar.

Certainly Jizzle as well. He's very crafty and able to throw defenders off balance already. I think he needs to work on finishing at the rim rather than settling for midrange fadeaways. He's converting under 50% at the rim, which is bad. Those fadeaways look pretty when they go in, but he's only hitting 42% of them - it's even worse than his current bad rim conversion rate. And because he shies away from the rim, he doesn't get fouled much. He's also got a lot of work to do on the defensive end. But the tools are there for Jizzle.

[GunSlinger]

Dans gone after this year, so his improvement will come at the next level. JJames is certainly a star in the making. Wish he would get more playing time in the 2nd half of games. He brings electricity to the offense and his teammates feed off of that. As does the crowd. Super frustrated by Wes Millers rotation and I believe it’s cost them at least 2 games. At least.

[Oldtimer_UC_fan]

Dans gone after this year, so his improvement will come at the next level. JJames is certainly a star in the making. Wish he would get more playing time in the 2nd half of games. He brings electricity to the offense and his teammates feed off of that. As does the crowd. Super frustrated by Wes Millers rotation and I believe it’s cost them at least 2 games. At least.

Why would Dan be gone? He is nowhere near ready for the NBA.

[Jeff Burk]

Dans gone after this year, so his improvement will come at the next level. JJames is certainly a star in the making. Wish he would get more playing time in the 2nd half of games. He brings electricity to the offense and his teammates feed off of that. As does the crowd. Super frustrated by Wes Millers rotation and I believe it’s cost them at least 2 games. At least.

Seriously? How did you arrive at that?

[longtimefan]

Seriously? How did you arrive at that?

I was about to ask the same thing.

[leo from jersey]

The next great player may not be on the team yet.

[D.A.H.]

Dans gone after this year, so his improvement will come at the next level. JJames is certainly a star in the making. Wish he would get more playing time in the 2nd half of games. He brings electricity to the offense and his teammates feed off of that. As does the crowd. Super frustrated by Wes Millers rotation and I believe it’s cost them at least 2 games. At least.

he's not good on defense (which may be fine "at the next level", and he also sucks as a ball handler - horrible decisions with the ball. with that said, i do like him. he's just young and out of control at times.

[sedz]

Skillings has the first 4 turnover game of the season, and suddenly the narrative is that he is a turnover machine (not directed at you DAH, I've seen this idea pop up all over the place since Wednesday).

Players with a higher turnover rate than Skillings: Jizzle, Day Day, Simas, Newman, Aziz, Jamille, Vik, Ody, Reed ... Zach Edey, Tristen Newton, Jamal Shead, Caleb Love, Johnell Davis, Kevin McCullar, Tyler Kolek, Baylor Scheierman, Anton Watson. It's a long list full of great players.

I'm not saying Skillings is great with the ball or has good court vision. But turnovers are not a liability for him. He has a high usage rate now and turnovers are expected for high usage players. They are a part of basketball and completely eliminating them isn't reasonable. Tyler Kolek has 9 games this year with 4+ turnovers. Kevin McCullar has 5 games with 5+ turnovers. Tristen Newton has a couple of 6 turnover games.

[D.A.H.]

for a non point guard, four t/o's seems high to me. i'm old, but to's seem bad - he's just made some egregious throws ( i can't even call them passes). he does get to rim, but its a little iffy if he'll finish or not.- at least three games this year, where he's missed two free throws late - so, if its iffy if you can finish, and you're not good on free throws, and you're a t/o machine, all's good? again, I like DS - but he has work to do

[Gmann]

Skillings is great at getting to the basket I'd just like to see him improve on finishing when he gets there. That being said James and Skillings are the foundation of this roster that Wes needs to retain, develop, and build around. We are lucky to have them. The top programs in the country have athletes like them that give them the edge.

[sedz]

for a non point guard, four t/o's seems high to me.

It is. My point is that he hadn't done that all season until Wednesday. Even with that bad game he only has 18 turnovers in all of conference play, only 1.4 per game.

[red_n_black_attack]

The next great player may not be on the team yet.

Who are ya thinking?