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  • swilsonsp4
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    For comparison, here's evanmiya's BPR for UC's 2025-26 team (of those with qualifying minutes played). I don't have access to barttorvik's player data:

    Baba Miller: 7.23
    Day Day Thomas: 5.67
    Jalen Celestine: 4.06
    Moustapha Thiam: 3.90
    Buck Harris: 3.65
    Jizzle James: 3.56
    Keyshaun Tillery: 2.07
    Kerr Kriisa: 1.10
    Shon Abaev: 0.68
    Tyler McKinley: (-0.59)

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  • sedz
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    Metrics for our current roster. Torvik BPM. EvanMiya BPR.

    Guards
    2.4 3.6 Tylen Riley, Senior (Tulsa)
    3.2 2.2 Elijah Perryman, Sophomore (Utah State)
    4.3 4.7 Trevian Carson, Senior (North Dakota State)
    -2.5-0.4 Akai Fleming, Sophomore (Georgia Tech)

    Wings
    2.3 2.4 Myles Colvin, Senior (Wake Forest)
    3.2 4.2 Eric Mahaffey, RS Sophomore (Akron)
    4.3 2.6 Tyler Tejada, Senior (Towson)
    3.3 2.4 Adlan Elamin, Sophomore (Utah State)

    Bigs
    2.3 3.4 Jayden Hastings, Junior (Boston College)
    5.0 3.0 Riley Allenspach, Senior (George Mason)
    ---- ---- David Iweze, RS Freshman (Utah St.)

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  • sedz
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    Metrics for our current roster. Torvik BPM. EvanMiya BPR.

    Guards
    2.3 2.4 Myles Colvin, Senior (Wake Forest)
    4.3 4.7 Trevian Carson, Senior (North Dakota State)
    3.2 2.2 Elijah Perryman, Sophomore (Utah State)
    2.4 3.6 Tylen Riley, Senior (Tulsa)

    Wings
    4.3 2.6 Tyler Tejada, Senior (Towson)
    3.2 4.2 Eric Mahaffey, RS Sophomore (Akron)
    3.3 2.4 Adlan Elamin, Sophomore (Utah State)

    Bigs
    5.0 3.0 Riley Allenspach, Senior (George Mason)
    2.3 3.4 Jayden Hastings, Junior (Boston College)
    ---- ---- David Iweze, RS Freshman (Utah St.)

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  • sedz
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    Metrics for our current roster. Torvik BPM. EvanMiya BPR.

    Guards
    2.3 2.4 Myles Colvin, Senior (Wake Forest)
    4.3 4.7 Trevian Carson, Senior (North Dakota State)
    3.2 2.2 Elijah Perryman, Sophomore (Utah State)
    2.4 3.6 Tylen Riley, Senior (Tulsa)

    Wings
    4.3 2.6 Tyler Tejada, Senior (Towson)
    3.2 4.2 Eric Mahaffey, RS Sophomore (Akron)
    3.3 2.4 Adlan Elamin, Sophomore (Utah State)

    Bigs
    5.0 3.0 Riley Allenspach, Senior (George Mason)
    ---- ---- David Iweze, RS Freshman (Utah St.)

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  • sedz
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    Originally posted by bearcatbret View Post

    So, it looks like most of the current roster are "Role Players".
    Last season yes, especially the young guys. But I expect an average 1-2 BPM improvement each season, with some players making bigger jumps and others stagnating or even declining. I'm hoping that Carson, Tejada, Mahaffey, and Allenspach are major rotation players with one of them making a bigger leap to star player. Tejada seems most likely to be a star if Calhoun can get him to take efficient shots in his system. Elamin also has the ability to take a big jump. I think we need at least one other major rotation big/PF.

    Comparing to our 2026 team, we had one all-conference player in Baba Miller, one star in Celestine, two major rotation players in Day Day and Thiam, and a defensive specialist in Sencire Harris. Everyone else was a project including Jizzle, Tillery, Abaev, McKinley, Dzellat, and Kriisa. So far everyone we've brought in has proven production at least as a role player, minus Iweze.
    Last edited by London 'Cat; 04-21-2026, 11:59 AM. Reason: Added “defensive” to the reference to Harris

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  • bearcatbret
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    Originally posted by sedz View Post
    I'll be analyzing the transfers we're connected with and using BPM as the main measuring stick. Here's a quick and dirty grading scale:

    10+: All-American, top 20 nationally
    8-9: All Conference
    6-7: Star Player
    4-5: Major Rotation Player
    2-3: Role Player or Specialist
    1 or Below: Project

    In the portal I'm mainly looking to bring in 4+ BPM players. Mitchell was our only guy in the Star Player category. It would be nice to get another star, or for Mitchell to increase his usage and move up to All Conference Caliber.
    So, it looks like most of the current roster are "Role Players".

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  • sedz
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    Metrics for our current roster. Torvik BPM. EvanMiya BPR.

    Guards
    2.3 2.4 Myles Colvin, Senior (Wake Forest)
    4.3 4.7 Trevian Carson, Senior (North Dakota State)
    3.2 2.2 Elijah Perryman, Sophomore (Utah State)

    Wings
    4.3 2.6 Tyler Tejada, Senior (Towson)
    3.2 4.2 Eric Mahaffey, RS Sophomore (Akron)
    3.3 2.4 Adlan Elamin, Sophomore (Utah State)

    Bigs
    5.0 3.0 Riley Allenspach, Senior (George Mason)
    ---- ---- David Iweze, RS Freshman (Utah St.)

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  • BearKatz
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    Originally posted by sedz View Post
    Baba Miller posted the 7th best Bearcats season since 2008 with an 8.5 BPM, tying 2019 Jarron Cumberland. His 28% defensive rebounding rate is #1, beating out Tre Scott's 26% in 2020. And Baba's 23% assist rate is the best mark for any frontcourt player, beating Titus Rubles' 19% in 2013.

    We could use another year of Baba in the frontcourt.

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  • sedz
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    Baba Miller posted the 7th best Bearcats season since 2008 with an 8.5 BPM, tying 2019 Jarron Cumberland. His 28% defensive rebounding rate is #1, beating out Tre Scott's 26% in 2020. And Baba's 23% assist rate is the best mark for any frontcourt player, beating Titus Rubles' 19% in 2013.

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  • sedz
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    Play by play data is incomplete before 2008 but some people try to compile advanced metrics from what's available. This guy found that Kenyon Martin had a BPM of 15.2 in 2000, the highest in the 1997 to 2002 period he was looking at. It would have been top 10 in Torvik's history until this year. Yaxel Lendeborg grabbed #9 with a 15.3 and Cameron Boozer #2 with 17.1. Zion Williamson's 18.7 in 2019 sits at the top.

    https://x.com/slipthescreen/status/2...274645/photo/1
    Last edited by sedz; 04-02-2026, 12:33 PM.

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  • leo from jersey
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    Originally posted by London 'Cat View Post

    I did not interpret sedz post insulting. Let's keep posts on topic and not get defensive. And we don't need the sarcasm either.
    I am for that. It is a forum and nothing more.

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  • London 'Cat
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    Originally posted by leo from jersey View Post
    why the insult? Because I questioned? Hey this is a forum. I defended my dissertation years ago. Thanks for the answering my sincere question.
    I did not interpret sedz post insulting. Let's keep posts on topic and not get defensive. And we don't need the sarcasm either.

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  • leo from jersey
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    Originally posted by sedz View Post
    I do not hold the cynical attitude that teams are scoring more because defense is worse. Strategy is different now. More threes and rim, less midrange. The data is clear on that. Innovation works.

    Duke and Arizona both have top 3 defenses, holding average opponents to 0.91 points per possession. Defending the modern game is just as important.
    why the insult? Because I questioned? Hey this is a forum. I defended my dissertation years ago. Thanks for the answering my sincere question.

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  • sedz
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    In 2010, 187 teams took at least a third of their shots from midrange. This year only 8 teams did that.

    MS Valley St, the worst team in the country, had the highest midrange rate at 38.7% this year. In 2010, 76 teams exceeded that mark.

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  • sedz
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    Originally posted by leo from jersey View Post

    so where does the defense figure in. We saw UC scoring go down when the bigs were double teamed a couple of games ago. Could the high offense be because of less attention to defense. How was say Arizona's or Duke points per possession allowed?
    I do not hold the cynical attitude that teams are scoring more because defense is worse. Strategy is different now. More threes and rim, less midrange. The data is clear on that. Innovation works.

    Duke and Arizona both have top 3 defenses, holding average opponents to 0.91 points per possession. Defending the modern game is just as important.

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