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  • Lobot
    Administrator
    • Apr 2007
    • 28223

    #1

    Polls 24-25

    The preseason AP poll lands tomorrow.
    Brent Wyrick
    92 Final Four Front Row
    @LobotC2DFW
  • Carthage World
    Distinguished Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 961

    #2
    KenPom's preseason rankings are out. (Please move if this belongs in a separate thread.)

    #1 Houston
    #6 Kansas
    #7 Iowa St
    #8 Arizona
    #11 Baylor
    #15 Texas Tech
    #17 Cincinnati
    #21 BYU
    #49 Kansas St
    #58 TCU
    #66 UCF
    #71 Arizona St
    #80 Colorado
    #82 Utah
    #87 West Virginia
    #89 Oklahoma St

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    • Lobot
      Administrator
      • Apr 2007
      • 28223

      #3
      Originally posted by Carthage World
      KenPom's preseason rankings are out. (Please move if this belongs in a separate thread.)

      #1 Houston
      #6 Kansas
      #7 Iowa St
      #8 Arizona
      #11 Baylor
      #15 Texas Tech
      #17 Cincinnati
      #21 BYU
      #49 Kansas St
      #58 TCU
      #66 UCF
      #71 Arizona St
      #80 Colorado
      #82 Utah
      #87 West Virginia
      #89 Oklahoma St
      We can leave it here.

      I saw a post from the Field of 68 newsletter showing that Houston is consensus #1 in Kenpom, Torvik, Haslametrics and EvanMiya models. Pretty impressive to do that and lose your best player from last season.
      Brent Wyrick
      92 Final Four Front Row
      @LobotC2DFW

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      • GoBearcats31
        Super Moderator
        • Apr 2007
        • 11744

        #4
        Originally posted by Lobot

        We can leave it here.

        I saw a post from the Field of 68 newsletter showing that Houston is consensus #1 in Kenpom, Torvik, Haslametrics and EvanMiya models. Pretty impressive to do that and lose your best player from last season.
        The metrics sure are interesting.

        Indiana is #39 in KenPom this morning, but look for them to be top 20 in the AP Poll when it comes out.

        Obviously less of a distinction between 1 and maybe 4-5, but interesting that Houston would be the metrics darling but humans do not seem to be picking them quite that high.

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        • GoBearcats31
          Super Moderator
          • Apr 2007
          • 11744

          #5
          UC is #20 in the preseason AP poll https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-col...asketball-poll

          1. Kansas
          4. Houston
          5. Iowa State
          8. Baylor
          10. Arizona
          20. Cincinnati

          Receiving votes: Xavier (28), Texas Tech (29), Kansas State (31), BYU (35), Arizona State (51) ... Villanova, Dayton nowhere to be found but they were 20 and 27 in KenPom


          From UC: "It marks the program's first appearance in a preseason poll since 2017-18, where it was No. 12 and ultimately reached the top-five. UC's last time ranked overall was in the final 2018-19 poll."


          Jeff Goodman tweets three teams he is higher on than the poll -- he personally slots UC in at 15
          Last edited by GoBearcats31; 10-14-2024, 12:33 PM.

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          • DesertFog
            Member
            • Dec 2017
            • 177

            #6
            Originally posted by GoBearcats31

            The metrics sure are interesting.

            Indiana is #39 in KenPom this morning, but look for them to be top 20 in the AP Poll when it comes out.

            Obviously less of a distinction between 1 and maybe 4-5, but interesting that Houston would be the metrics darling but humans do not seem to be picking them quite that high.
            Yes, that is indeed an interesting difference. I wonder why? Alas, statistical vs subjective prediction: Which is better? The argument has persisted down through the years.

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            • Lobot
              Administrator
              • Apr 2007
              • 28223

              #7
              Kenpom bounced us all the way up to 15 after last night
              Brent Wyrick
              92 Final Four Front Row
              @LobotC2DFW

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              • Lobot
                Administrator
                • Apr 2007
                • 28223

                #8
                Up to 17 this week in the AP:

                Brent Wyrick
                92 Final Four Front Row
                @LobotC2DFW

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                • Lobot
                  Administrator
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 28223

                  #9
                  Kenpom 13:

                  https://kenpom.com/
                  Brent Wyrick
                  92 Final Four Front Row
                  @LobotC2DFW

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                  • BearKatz
                    Veteran
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 3205

                    #10
                    Just saw UC is at #17! Feels like an eternity since we were in the Top 25!

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                    • GoBearcats31
                      Super Moderator
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 11744

                      #11
                      17 in ESPN power rankings https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...uburn-kentucky

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                      • GoBearcats31
                        Super Moderator
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 11744

                        #12
                        Originally posted by GoBearcats31
                        11 on CBS https://www.cbssports.com/college-ba...s-eyes-top-10/

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                        • BearKatz
                          Veteran
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 3205

                          #13
                          UC is the only team to drop a spot, not losing a game this week....Would like to hear the explanation on this one..

                          AP Poll: Kentucky makes huge leap into overhauled top 10 https://thescore.com/ncaab/news/3132409

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                          • Lobot
                            Administrator
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 28223

                            #14
                            ^^ I'm not concerned about 1 spot when we've played nobody. UK jumped because they beat Duke.



                            KU at 1
                            ISU at 5
                            Houston at 7
                            Baylor at 13
                            Arizona at 17
                            UC at 18.

                            ORV: Tech, Xavier, BYU, UCF, K-State, ASU.


                            Conference is stacked.

                            Brent Wyrick
                            92 Final Four Front Row
                            @LobotC2DFW

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                            • Dr.kenneth noisewater
                              Member
                              • Mar 2019
                              • 98

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BearKatz
                              UC is the only team to drop a spot, not losing a game this week....Would like to hear the explanation on this one..

                              AP Poll: Kentucky makes huge leap into overhauled top 10 https://thescore.com/ncaab/news/3132409
                              No worries, that just means we're back

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