Polls 24-25

[Lobot]

The preseason AP poll lands tomorrow.

[Carthage World]

KenPom's preseason rankings are out. (Please move if this belongs in a separate thread.)

#1 Houston
#6 Kansas
#7 Iowa St
#8 Arizona
#11 Baylor
#15 Texas Tech
#17 Cincinnati
#21 BYU
#49 Kansas St
#58 TCU
#66 UCF
#71 Arizona St
#80 Colorado
#82 Utah
#87 West Virginia
#89 Oklahoma St

[Lobot]

KenPom's preseason rankings are out. (Please move if this belongs in a separate thread.)

#1 Houston
#6 Kansas
#7 Iowa St
#8 Arizona
#11 Baylor
#15 Texas Tech
#17 Cincinnati
#21 BYU
#49 Kansas St
#58 TCU
#66 UCF
#71 Arizona St
#80 Colorado
#82 Utah
#87 West Virginia
#89 Oklahoma St

We can leave it here.

I saw a post from the Field of 68 newsletter showing that Houston is consensus #1 in Kenpom, Torvik, Haslametrics and EvanMiya models. Pretty impressive to do that and lose your best player from last season.

[GoBearcats31]

We can leave it here.

I saw a post from the Field of 68 newsletter showing that Houston is consensus #1 in Kenpom, Torvik, Haslametrics and EvanMiya models. Pretty impressive to do that and lose your best player from last season.

The metrics sure are interesting.

Indiana is #39 in KenPom this morning, but look for them to be top 20 in the AP Poll when it comes out.

Obviously less of a distinction between 1 and maybe 4-5, but interesting that Houston would be the metrics darling but humans do not seem to be picking them quite that high.

[GoBearcats31]

UC is #20 in the preseason AP poll https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-col...asketball-poll

1. Kansas
4. Houston
5. Iowa State
8. Baylor
10. Arizona
20. Cincinnati

Receiving votes: Xavier (28), Texas Tech (29), Kansas State (31), BYU (35), Arizona State (51) ... Villanova, Dayton nowhere to be found but they were 20 and 27 in KenPom


From UC: "It marks the program's first appearance in a preseason poll since 2017-18, where it was No. 12 and ultimately reached the top-five. UC's last time ranked overall was in the final 2018-19 poll."


Jeff Goodman tweets three teams he is higher on than the poll -- he personally slots UC in at 15

[DesertFog]

The metrics sure are interesting.

Indiana is #39 in KenPom this morning, but look for them to be top 20 in the AP Poll when it comes out.

Obviously less of a distinction between 1 and maybe 4-5, but interesting that Houston would be the metrics darling but humans do not seem to be picking them quite that high.

Yes, that is indeed an interesting difference. I wonder why? Alas, statistical vs subjective prediction: Which is better? The argument has persisted down through the years.