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  • Just listened to CWM. yes having nice kids is good, but having, energetic, BB smart, tough kids is also good and win games. You can be tough and a good kid at the same time. I knew a guy that was the President of the local Christian athletic club (FCA) and he coached the special Olympics. When he crossed that black line he was a player. Never mean or disrespectful, but totally hard nose. You can be both and CWM that is a poor excuse.
    Last edited by leo from jersey; 01-08-2025, 08:33 AM.

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    • I'm not disappointed in the loss - I expected them to lose. On the road. Statically higher rated opponent. Maybe other reasons. However, I did not expect them to look so bad while losing. That is what is disappointing. They could not shoot, could not defend, still can't make free throws, and about half the shots taken by the 'Cats were 3s. They just aren't a good team, or they did not play to their potential last night. Skillings is scoring well at 18 PPG in conference games. Aziz has been solid for the most part. But the rest of the team seems overmatched by BigXII competition. Thomas looks good at times but tries to pass with one hand resulting in too many turnovers. And what about the shot doctor who was supposed to improve everyone's shooting form? I haven't seen any improvement in that area. At least against AZ they fought back to make it a game at the end. But they were never in the game against Baylor.

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      • Originally posted by sedz View Post
        Jizzle and Simas especially look overmatched against long athletic defenses. Neither of them have the handles to create separation like they could in the non-con. And since we don't have post scorers and refuse to run off ball actions, they have to create themselves.
        Yeah. That's more become more obvious than ever after these past few games. Simas seems better suited to be a 6th man catch and shoot guy off the bench while the PnR game with Jizzle/Aziz is clearly not effective against Big 12 comp. The offense needs a major revamp.

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        • Originally posted by Carthage World View Post

          Yeah. That's more become more obvious than ever after these past few games. Simas seems better suited to be a 6th man catch and shoot guy off the bench while the PnR game with Jizzle/Aziz is clearly not effective against Big 12 comp. The offense needs a major revamp.
          How ??????????? They brought in the shot doctor? Is it shooting , shot selection or the ability to get a good shot. How is this corrected? A floor leader might help, but there is none to be found this year. Hero ball is here this year. CWM must go to the portal and get a couple team players. If the shots fall, UC has a chance, but there is a reason that the shots are not falling against better competition. Lobs are not the answer either as the last 3 games has proven. I don't know Chuck either.
          Last edited by leo from jersey; 01-08-2025, 09:28 AM.

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          • Originally posted by London 'Cat View Post
            I'm not disappointed in the loss - I expected them to lose. On the road. Statically higher rated opponent. Maybe other reasons. However, I did not expect them to look so bad while losing. That is what is disappointing. They could not shoot, could not defend, still can't make free throws, and about half the shots taken by the 'Cats were 3s. They just aren't a good team, or they did not play to their potential last night. Skillings is scoring well at 18 PPG in conference games. Aziz has been solid for the most part. But the rest of the team seems overmatched by BigXII competition. Thomas looks good at times but tries to pass with one hand resulting in too many turnovers. And what about the shot doctor who was supposed to improve everyone's shooting form? I haven't seen any improvement in that area. At least against AZ they fought back to make it a game at the end. But they were never in the game against Baylor.
            DayDay's shot has improved massively (28% last year, 43% currently this year).

            I agree on the rest though, it's not the loss, it's the way we lost and the general trend of Wes being unwilling to make changes. He did put Fredrick, then Reed in for about 30 seconds each at the end of the first half, but that reeked more of desperation that trying to make a real change.

            Skillings, DayDay and Aziz look like they belong and they care. Everyone else is either over-matched and/or don't give 100% most of the time.

            On the subject of disappointment, Mitchell has been. His defensive ability was overhyped, he's not a bad defender by any means, but he's not the elite defender that Newman was.
            Last edited by zykarious; 01-08-2025, 10:06 AM.

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            • Originally posted by bearcatjd View Post
              Well as disappointed as I am with the results of the last 3 games, I won't insult the players. CWM needs to change the lineup. I believe the players really like Miller because I believe he is too soft. If someone is not doing well on defense & can't score, take them out. We can't do any worse than the last 3 games. Start the second string players & maybe it will wake up the starters. Something needs to change. Thank goodness they sell beer at the games & we have pretty cheerleaders & pretty dance team members.
              Wes historically seems to be very slow to react. I know in the past he has talked about not wanting to overreact single games and wanting to wait to see the advanced stats over multiple games. Which sounds good in theory, but advanced stats don't tell you much about the effort each player is giving. Whereas, it's pretty easy to see when a guy is slacking off.

              I have no clue what is going on with Hickman, it's been obvious he shouldn't be getting more than 5 minutes per game since basically the start of the season. Now he has an injured ankle too and can't even defend. Him still getting minutes is absolutely ridiculous and entirely on Wes.

              Wes is big on giving players freedom, but he also needs them to take responsibility. If they use that freedom to slack off, either you need to take away the freedom or you need to put in someone who will give his all. I'm up for starting DayDay and Reed next game at least (bench Jizzle and Simas or Mitchell), reward the guys who play defense and give the effort. Wes praised Reed after Villonova for being the one guy in that game who brought it on defense, since then Reed has barely played.

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              • Originally posted by zykarious View Post

                DayDay's shot has improved massively (28% last year, 43% currently this year).

                I agree on the rest though, it's not the loss, it's the way we lost and the general trend of Wes being unwilling to make changes. He did put Fredrick, then Reed in for about 30 seconds each at the end of the first half, but that reeked more of desperation that trying to make a real change.

                Skillings, DayDay and Aziz look like they belong and they care. Everyone else is either over-matched and/or don't give 100% most of the time.

                On the subject of disappointment, Mitchell has been. His defensive ability was overhyped, he's not a bad defender by any means, but he's not the elite defender that Newman was.
                Newman hustled and on offense he was a decoy who drew defenders and so many times kicked it out to the open SL for a three. He made smart plays. He kept his passes in bounds and calmed the team down many times. BUT life and BB goes on.

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                • Originally posted by zykarious View Post

                  DayDay's shot had improve massively (28% last year, 43% currently this year).

                  I agree on the rest though, it's not the loss, it's the way we lost and the general trend of Wes being unwilling to make changes. He did put Fredrick, then Reed in for about 30 seconds each at the end of the first half, but that reeked more of desperation that trying to make a real change.

                  Skillings, DayDay and Aziz look like they belong and they care. Everyone else is either over-matched and/or don't give 100% most of the time.

                  On the subject of disappointment, Mitchell has been. His defensive ability was overhyped, he's not a bad defender by any means, but he's not the elite defender that Newman was.
                  Good post. I have noticed that with Mitchell as well. However, I still think that Mitchell in the lineup gives UC its best chance to win. UC is NOT equipped to deal with big body big men. Except for Arizona, all of UC's losses so far have been to teams with big body four men. It was not good strategy to bring Mitchell in to play the four. He really is better suited to play the three. You are right, Mitchell is a good open floor defender. However, he is not a good shot defender. Even smaller players are able to shoot over him. By the way, Mitchell is NOT 6'8" either (more like 6'7"). Simas and James are also struggling on both sides of the ball.

                  UC was ranked in the Top 25 coming into the season and held that ranking until two games into conference play. UC was also picked to finish no lower than 6th in the BIG XII. At this time, UC is in last place with zero (0) wins. If I am not mistaken, UC may be the only BIG XII team with an 0-3 record. Hey, let's not pretend as though we all had the utmost confidence in Miller's coaching. We were hoping and praying that Miller finally turned the corner and had put together a team that could compete for a championship. We were also hoping and praying that he could coach them the right way. However, we all have been witnesses to Miller's coaching style and abilities for four (4) seasons now. We all know that Miller's UC teams have lost an average of about 14 games a year. To some of us, we are NOT that surprised because even with Miller's best team (in my estimation), the Nolley-DeJulius team, UC still lost 13 games that year and was 11-7 in the American. UC is NOW in the BIG XII. A so-called "Power Conference".

                  Maybe we have seen Miller's best. As frightening of a thought as that is, it may be true. Maybe at this time his best is not good enough. I do not know about that one. I am an optimist by nature and I truly believe that UC has ENOUGH of a roster to compete at highest levels in the BIG XII. Can the situation that UC finds itself in get Miller to channel and focus his inner coaching guru to take his coaching to a higher level? I sincerely hope so. There are at least 18 BIG XII games left on the season. There is plenty of time for Miller to get the ship back upright.
                  Last edited by leeraymond; 01-08-2025, 01:47 PM.

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                  • Remaining games this month:

                    Kansas
                    at Colorado
                    Arizona State
                    Texas Tech
                    at BYU
                    at Utah

                    Need 4-2…

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                    • Wes shows no passion during the press conference, call out your players like Mick did. Show more passion or toughness, he not the answer for the Bearcats.

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                      • For some time, I and others on this forum, have assessed Miller as a very good recruiter and a subpar to poor developer of talent and in game coach. I believe he has improved the talent each year backed up by how these recruits are rated by the experts. I was hopeful that Miller could assemble enough talent to offset his weaknesses based on the last 4 years results. He does not seem to be improving and is too nice of a guy to get on anybody or sit them down to make a point. This league is filled with comparable talented rosters but far superior coaching and that translates to what we have seen thus far.

                        I think that last year Newman and DDJ provided some on the court leadership and competitveness that is sadly lacking from this squad. I hate the feeling of dread I have but it is so bad right now I don't think Miller has the experience to turn it around. I hope I am wrong because if he fails this year and is fired there will be a mass exodus of players who will either follow him or go elsewhere. I don't know how many rebuilds I have in me at this stage of my life. Also I appeciate this forum as an outlet as I know many of you are as passionate about the Bearcats as I am.

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                        • CWM has time to turn this season around. But he must be intentional with his actions to make that happen. Whether he can or not remains to be seen. IMO, he has to use the bench as a motivator. Until players improve their play they don’t see the floor.

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                          • I turned the game off last night at halftime because I saw the same "deer in headlight" look from our guys that I've now seen in the last two games. I was hoping CWM was the coach that could bring back the Bearcat brand of bball, but now I can't say that. It's like the only offensive play they worked during before seasons start was that lob to Aziz and when the cupcake portion of the schedule concluded the stiffer opponents took that away and now their lost. Simas Is a spot on shooter when he has time to pitch a tent build a fire and then shoot but when he has to pull a shot quick not so much. He moves like a wildebeast among gazelles. Every prognosticator believed that Miller has assembled a team that could compete based on each individuals past production but now Miller has yet to get even what was expected out of these guys. And in years past he had us all scratching our heads trying to figure out his rotation of players but now we're scratching because of his lack of rotation. If I had to guess he's basing his playing times on keeping players from hitting the portal at season's end
                            Last edited by Rufus; 01-08-2025, 06:27 PM.

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                            • CWM needs to shake this up, if that means starting Griffith and Reed, do it. Find some guys who want to play as hard and tough as Bearcats are supposed to. Don’t hesitate to bench anybody for lack of effort. Make guys earn their minutes all over again, against league competition.

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                              • I feel like Yes-men coaches like Wes are a disturbing trend, coupled with NIL infected players that are becoming narcissistic. Jizzle?
                                Last edited by London 'Cat; 01-08-2025, 11:18 PM. Reason: Political content removed.

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