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  • leeraymond372@gmail.com
    Member
    • Jul 2025
    • 249

    #76
    Originally posted by leeraymond372@gmail.com

    Oh okay. That explains some things, but not everything. For instance, after the EMU game, it took UC a while to post the box score. I had to go to the EMU basketball website to get the box score. Also, Xavier has posted the season stats for the UC game. UC has not.

    All season long I have been complaining about the posting of the season stats. I have followed UC basketball for a long time. UC has been very good at posting the box scores and the season stats on its website, in a timely manner, until this season. This is not normal for UC. Something ain't right.
    What am I complaining about? I am making a big deal out of nothing.

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    • BearKatz
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      • Oct 2014
      • 3205

      #77
      Originally posted by swilsonsp4

      I don't want a coach with ties to UC, unless he has proven himself as a success at a quality program. Hometown Heroes generally go bust at their Alma Maters (Chris Mullen, Clyde Drexler, et al). The ones who have succeeded have worked their way up through the ranks, learning what D1 coaching is all about (Matt Painter, for instance).

      I get what you're saying, but I still think Van Exel could do the job. He has past coaching expirience at the NBA Level as an Assistant Coach with the Hawks, Bucks, Grizzlies, & G League.

      You have to start somewhere at the College Ranks! I believe he can relate to these young players while instilling some UC Pride back in the program. I wanted Nick when we hired Brannen, and we see how that turned out!

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      • loshow22
        Veteran
        • Apr 2007
        • 1010

        #78
        I don't want Cunningham anywhere near the next hire. I'd be keeping a keen eye on Utah State's Jerrod Calhoun. Deep ties to UC.
        Cory Huffman
        Cin City

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        • leo from jersey
          Veteran
          • Apr 2007
          • 6174

          #79
          Originally posted by loshow22
          I don't want Cunningham anywhere near the next hire. I'd be keeping a keen eye on Utah State's Jerrod Calhoun. Deep ties to UC.
          sadly, it has been the deep pockets and not Cunningham making the choices.

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          • swilsonsp4
            Veteran
            • Apr 2007
            • 5062

            #80
            Originally posted by BearKatz


            I get what you're saying, but I still think Van Exel could do the job. He has past coaching expirience at the NBA Level as an Assistant Coach with the Hawks, Bucks, Grizzlies, & G League.

            You have to start somewhere at the College Ranks! I believe he can relate to these young players while instilling some UC Pride back in the program. I wanted Nick when we hired Brannen, and we see how that turned out!
            No thanks. At none of those stops was NVE involved in the world of recruiting, of sitting for hours on end at AAU events all summer, of running the program, including hiring experienced assistants (who also know the intricacies of dealing with teenagers and their parents/agents).

            If the decision is made to end CWM's time here, I want an experienced head coach with a proven track record, not an experiment.

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            • BearKatz
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              • Oct 2014
              • 3205

              #81
              Originally posted by swilsonsp4

              No thanks. At none of those stops was NVE involved in the world of recruiting, of sitting for hours on end at AAU events all summer, of running the program, including hiring experienced assistants (who also know the intricacies of dealing with teenagers and their parents/agents).

              If the decision is made to end CWM's time here, I want an experienced head coach with a proven track record, not an experiment.
              Well the last 7yrs has been a total waste of time. Basically nothing more than a failed experiment. I guess will see how this plays out.

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              • Rufus
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                • Apr 2019
                • 2684

                #82
                It's always baffled me in why UC would go through the hard work, protocols and tests put upon UC for years, in order to obtain admission into a power conference ( and questionably the toughest bball conference ) and then hire not one but two coaches in the most visible of sports and have not proved themselves prior. I originally thought that the tenets of head coaching, having changed with the transfer portal and the paying of "student athletes" would somehow offer a legitimate justification for their mediocre but I don't believe that's the case any longer. I just don't think CWM can coach at this level and I for one am disappointed because with his link to Roy Williams I really had high hopes. So I'm in the same school as swilsonp4 in that the next coach needs to be someone who has proven to be able to win in a power conference and recruit. The same is true of the football program too. If I was a rigid conspiracy theorist I would say that the reason for Millers habitually being out coached has more to do with it being a stipulation in the B12 entrance contract that UC remain in the bottom of the conference rankings until they at least began receiving their full share of B12 monies. It would explain why there has been no noticable increase of production these last five years.

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                • John P
                  Member
                  • Feb 2020
                  • 147

                  #83
                  My wife asked me earlier this evening" when do the Cats play next?"
                  My reply was, "I have no idea"
                  I started following Bearcat basketball over 30 years ago, That's the first time I had no idea when the next game was. Very sad indeed.

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                  • JohnFrancis
                    Distinguished Member
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 829

                    #84
                    Originally posted by John P
                    My wife asked me earlier this evening" when do the Cats play next?"
                    My reply was, "I have no idea"
                    I started following Bearcat basketball over 30 years ago, That's the first time I had no idea when the next game was. Very sad indeed.
                    I feel the same way...it's going to be a long, cold (and winless) winter..

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                    • leo from jersey
                      Veteran
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 6174

                      #85
                      I still have hopes before every game until the Cats show me otherwise. Then deep down I want them to have a miracle, but Oscar isn't suiting up. Just an old dreamer dreaming about his beloved Bearcats.
                      Last edited by leo from jersey; 12-13-2025, 06:43 AM.

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                      • Rufus
                        Veteran
                        • Apr 2019
                        • 2684

                        #86
                        I remember an over two decade or more period of time when players were benched for not "playing hard" but now we rotate ten to twelve players who each one come in and stand around waiting to get their chance to hold up three digits on their hand as they lumber back down to the defensive side of the court.

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                        • leo from jersey
                          Veteran
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 6174

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Rufus
                          I remember an over two decade or more period of time when players were benched for not "playing hard" but now we rotate ten to twelve players who each one come in and stand around waiting to get their chance to hold up three digits on their hand as they lumber back down to the defensive side of the court.
                          It is what the entertainment tv crowd craves. Look he scored 12 but few see giving up 24

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                          • leo from jersey
                            Veteran
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 6174

                            #88
                            Originally posted by Rufus
                            It's always baffled me in why UC would go through the hard work, protocols and tests put upon UC for years, in order to obtain admission into a power conference ( and questionably the toughest bball conference ) and then hire not one but two coaches in the most visible of sports and have not proved themselves prior. I originally thought that the tenets of head coaching, having changed with the transfer portal and the paying of "student athletes" would somehow offer a legitimate justification for their mediocre but I don't believe that's the case any longer. I just don't think CWM can coach at this level and I for one am disappointed because with his link to Roy Williams I really had high hopes. So I'm in the same school as swilsonp4 in that the next coach needs to be someone who has proven to be able to win in a power conference and recruit. The same is true of the football program too. If I was a rigid conspiracy theorist I would say that the reason for Millers habitually being out coached has more to do with it being a stipulation in the B12 entrance contract that UC remain in the bottom of the conference rankings until they at least began receiving their full share of B12 monies. It would explain why there has been no noticable increase of production these last five years.
                            What about U of Houston

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                            • Rufus
                              Veteran
                              • Apr 2019
                              • 2684

                              #89
                              Originally posted by leo from jersey

                              What about U of Houston
                              K. Sampson was a proven coach albeit questions concerning recruiting violations at Indiana.

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                              • leo from jersey
                                Veteran
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 6174

                                #90
                                wow while waiting for the Cats, I caught my first game without the Cats. Wichita v. DePaul ---- what was I watching -- they were boxing out and putting bodies on each other. they hit the ground going after loose balls and I saw no standing around.

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