Kenpom, et al.

[bba_1979]

Just wondering if anyone has tracked UC on kenpom, evanmiya, barttorvik etc this season. I did last year and it was interesting to watch the ups and downs. I started to do it again this season, but quickly lost interest.

I still look, but don't track it in a spreadsheet as I did last year. I am surprised the Bearcats are ranked as high as they are considering their play and record. So that has me wondering if anyone has been doing this. If so I'd like to see how the Bearcats have tracked - high, low, biggest drop, biggest gain.

I know it means nothing as to post season play, but it would give a different look at the team than just wins, losses, and individual metrics.

Thanks for humoring me.

[sedz]

Torvik shows the team's ranking going into each game. We started at 40, improved to 38 after Dayton, dropped all the way to 86 after Clemson, and now have clawed our way back up to 46. Biggest drop was 40 to 63 after EMU. Biggest gain was 57 to 45 after Iowa St.

[Carthage World]

I used Torvik's Teamcast tool to forecast our remaining regular season games.

I figured the most realistic "best case scenario" would be to finish 7-2 with losses @Kansas and @Texas Tech.

That would put us at 18-13 overall and 10-8 in the conference heading into the conference tournament. Torvik had us as the "third team out" of the NCAA tournament should we get to that point.

[Gypo O'Leary]

I used Torvik's Teamcast tool to forecast our remaining regular season games.

I figured the most realistic "best case scenario" would be to finish 7-2 with losses @Kansas and @Texas Tech.

That would put us at 18-13 overall and 10-8 in the conference heading into the conference tournament. Torvik had us as the "third team out" of the NCAA tournament should we get to that point.

Since the season seems dead to me, it is interesting to consider that the Bearcats have 'blown' 4 games this year. E. Mich / X / West Va. / UCF If you flip those games, we are 15-7 and would be in hunt.

[D.A.H.]

I used Torvik's Teamcast tool to forecast our remaining regular season games.

I figured the most realistic "best case scenario" would be to finish 7-2 with losses @Kansas and @Texas Tech.

That would put us at 18-13 overall and 10-8 in the conference heading into the conference tournament. Torvik had us as the "third team out" of the NCAA tournament should we get to that point.

i'm sorry - unless there's some sort of miracle, i just can't see this team being anywhere near the tourny - with the recent track record, I don't think they'll get the nod over what will be a huge bottleneck, of mediocre teams hoping to make the first four.

[longtimefan]

i'm sorry - unless there's some sort of miracle, i just can't see this team being anywhere near the tourny - with the recent track record, I don't think they'll get the nod over what will be a huge bottleneck, of mediocre teams hoping to make the first four.

The toughest part of the schedule (by far) is behind them. Now coming up on a bunch of games they should win, they may have to play without Thiam and Abaev. More of that Kenpom bad luck.

[longtimefan]

And according to Torvik, UC has played 4 league games against the number 2-3-4 teams in the country. 1-3 in those games, we couldn’t realistically expect more. We’re done with those three teams. Now they have to beat the teams they can beat. Starts Wednesday.

[loshow22]

Since the season seems dead to me, it is interesting to consider that the Bearcats have 'blown' 4 games this year. E. Mich / X / West Va. / UCF If you flip those games, we are 15-7 and would be in hunt.

Sad thing is that yes, we blew those games, however...there is nothing in the Wes Miller coaching pedigree to suggest we actually shouldn't have blown those games. Look at his record when tied or trailing with under 5 minutes remaining in games. To me, that speaks volumes about late game management, or lack there of. Sad, but true.

[D.A.H.]

Sad thing is that yes, we blew those games, however...there is nothing in the Wes Miller coaching pedigree to suggest we actually shouldn't have blown those games. Look at his record when tied or trailing with under 5 minutes remaining in games. To me, that speaks volumes about late game management, or lack there of. Sad, but true.

and, as bill rafferty would put, about the "stones" on this group

[red_n_black_attack]

Number 71 in NET rating this morning. We have 3 top 25 games left, only one at home. With 7 games left, we are in a position where we need every win possible, or win the conference Tourney (highly unlikely).

[GoBearcats31]

UC is 57th on Ken Pom with a #10 defensive rating

Where are the other top 10 defensive teams?

1 - Michigan, #1 overall
2 - Arizona, #2 overall
3 - Duke, #3 overall
4 - Michigan State, #9 overall
5 - UConn, #8 overall
6 - Florida, #7 overall
7 - Kansas, #13 overall
8 - Iowa State, #6 overall
9 - Houston, #5 overall

[loshow22]

UC is 57th on Ken Pom with a #10 defensive rating

Where are the other top 10 defensive teams?

1 - Michigan, #1 overall
2 - Arizona, #2 overall
3 - Duke, #3 overall
4 - Michigan State, #9 overall
5 - UConn, #8 overall
6 - Florida, #7 overall
7 - Kansas, #13 overall
8 - Iowa State, #6 overall
9 - Houston, #5 overall

This is maddening to see.

[D.A.H.]

Number 71 in NET rating this morning. We have 3 top 25 games left, only one at home. With 7 games left, we are in a position where we need every win possible, or win the conference Tourney (highly unlikely).

to realistically have a chance, they'd need to cut that in half, or better. anyone think that's gonna happen?

[Rufus]

realistically on paper I see 4 potential wins. But that entirely depends on which team show up, the second half quitters or the full game defenders. And I don't think it will be enough if we did all four to get to a tournament that matters.

[GoBearcats31]

UC jumps from 69 to 61 in the NET
UC climbs to 51 in Ken Pom

Take care of business versus Utah on Sunday (which would put them at 6-7 in the Big 12) and the conversation is going to shift to: A) So you're saying there is a chance... ; B) Man, if only they had not lost to EMU + had taken care of business in 1 or 2 of those blown games vs WVU and at UCF