UC / U of L / UConn to ACC?

[ME80]

When it is all done there will be the Pac, Big10, SEC and an east west merged conference between the remaining ACC and Big12 members.

[RedRocker]

Almost makes waiting somewhat palatable. This whole thing is a mess and not just for UC. There are plenty of schools that currently exist in the ACC and Big12 that are sweating the next big move.

We'll be in the ACC no later than '15, but the question will be: what will the ACC look like by then? Frankly, it's going to look a lot like the old Big East.

The ACC could lose 2-6 teams with NC, NC State, Duke, UVA, VT, GT, FSU and Clemson all in play.

UC, UConn and USF could be added along with UCF and others.

[OCASCM07]

I don't want the ACC to get poached in case we do get the invite but it would serve those idiots right for not getting to 16 first in an attempt to prevent the poaching.

[ME80]

Well, this would certainly open a spot for UC into the ACC....

http://www.govolsxtra.com/news/2012/...artner=popular

Almost makes waiting somewhat palatable. This whole thing is a mess and not just for UC. There are plenty of schools that currently exist in the ACC and Big12 that are sweating the next big move.

[JohnFrancis]

Well, this would certainly open a spot for UC into the ACC....

http://www.govolsxtra.com/news/2012/...artner=popular

[Bearcat Otto]

My endowment is also substantial... or at least that is what I tell myself.

Do you have one of those carnival mirrors in your house?

[#41]

Look, the big 12 is one move away from having the same panic as the big east if texas moves.

Once again...

The Big 12 schools have all signed a Grant of Rights -- no matter how big and powerful Texas is, they're locked into the B12 until the GOR expires (in 10+ years). They can't just pay a buyout and walk away, even if they wanted to.

The Big 12 is the most stable conference there is right now.

[richard k.]

The endowment is a pool of money. People have the ability to donate to the endowment. However, the university can not (or does not) use the endowment fund directly.

The university receives the interest from the endowment to use as necessary. This way, the endowment provides sustainable income... instead of a one-time-use donation.

Didn't we just raise a billion dollars (or very close to it)? That money wasn't for the endowment fund was it? As someone said, Varsity Village enhances the whole campus, and campus life, and certainly helps draw in prospective students. Is the Athletic Department supposed to pay for it by itself? If the University builds a new physics building, does the Physics Department have to pay for it, and, if so, how would all the individual University components do so? At one point some years ago I had an interesting discussion on this Forum with a UC prof about athletic scholarships. While I know what they do, I've never understood assigning the cost of tuition to the athletic department, since it almost never costs the school anything extra to educate student athletes - though I do accept assigning them the cost of room/board, etc. Does the University charge the cost of a scholarship to the Political Science department for their scholarship students; I don't know. maybe they do - but if so, how do the Poli Sci people "pay" for them?

Look, either athletics are a component of the University, part of the university "experience," or they aren't. If they are, then the University as a whole has to accept at least some rational share of the funding - Ono can't whoop it up at Nippert and then say Babcock is on his own. If they aren't, then we need to drop intercollegiate athletics down to what the Division 3 people do; or at most treat them the way the Ivies do (which is basically the same as Division 3). If we are going to compete at the highest levels of intercollegiate athletics then the University has to recognize that while there are huge benefits that come from success doing that - there are no free lunches - Babcock and the rest will need the tools to do so.

Stepping off my soap box.

[RedRocker]

Look, the big 12 is one move away from having the same panic as the big east if texas moves. Both the Acc and Big 12 have issues if there is any fallout to the big ten or sec. I just really wonder if the Big 10 and sec really want to risk dilution of what they earning now. I suspect any moves would have to be big time guaranteed money makers. One thing i haven't heard is what the syc, pitt and lou deals are in the new conference. They may not be full members at inception. This is an important factor. We shall see.....

Despite what others have said about Texas and the rest of the B12 being tied together because of TV rights, we all know they will do what the want and fight it out in the legal system. The B12 and ACC definitely have potential stability issues, but I'd rather be in the ACC vs. BE 4.0 (aka C-USA 5.0).

I doubt any new school is getting a full share immediately. Nebraska is still receiving partial shares from the B10. I heard somewhere it is a 3-5 year phase in to a full share. Maybe start @ 75 or 80% and earn 5% per year?

[cafemerald]

Maybe someone can help explain our financial endowment. As I understand it UC has a substantial endowment fund and it is often touted as an asset to the University, yet it always seems we are in dire straits financially. Based on this article, we are in the top 100 schools (private & public) in terms of the size of our endowment.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/...oes/57704440/1


I'm just curious to learn more about what this all means.

The endowment is a pool of money. People have the ability to donate to the endowment. However, the university can not (or does not) use the endowment fund directly.

The university receives the interest from the endowment to use as necessary. This way, the endowment provides sustainable income... instead of a one-time-use donation.

[DBrentonBuck]

Maybe someone can help explain our financial endowment. As I understand it UC has a substantial endowment fund and it is often touted as an asset to the University, yet it always seems we are in dire straits financially. Based on this article, we are in the top 100 schools (private & public) in terms of the size of our endowment.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/...oes/57704440/1


I'm just curious to learn more about what this all means.

My endowment is also substantial... or at least that is what I tell myself.

[mjv780]

Xavier alum. And yes, the in-state politicians all view Ohio State as the flagship (aka: appropriations glutton) of the State of Ohio University System. UC is a distant secondary thought in their mind. Geography doesn't hurt OSU either. When these politicians are working in Columbus they're inundated with all things Buckeyes from the media. It's virtually impossible to shield yourself from it. Also, keep in mind that up until the 1970s UC was a metropolitan college, not a state school. Many of the old school political elites don't barely consider UC part of Ohio's University System when they pull the levers of the current politicians.

Oh, and if Boehner can't get a measely $1B in federal funding for The Brent Spence Bridge -- when the Fed's are dropping 10s of billions on green energy like Solyndra -- what makes you think can effectively do anything for UC?

I'd prefer the politicians stay out of conference realignment. They have more urgent issues to tackle right now (fiscal cliff?).

[BearcatNationUC]

Maybe someone can help explain our financial endowment. As I understand it UC has a substantial endowment fund and it is often touted as an asset to the University, yet it always seems we are in dire straits financially. Based on this article, we are in the top 100 schools (private & public) in terms of the size of our endowment.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/...oes/57704440/1


I'm just curious to learn more about what this all means.

[coach]

Look, the big 12 is one move away from having the same panic as the big east if texas moves. Both the Acc and Big 12 have issues if there is any fallout to the big ten or sec. I just really wonder if the Big 10 and sec really want to risk dilution of what they earning now. I suspect any moves would have to be big time guaranteed money makers. One thing i haven't heard is what the syc, pitt and lou deals are in the new conference. They may not be full members at inception. This is an important factor. We shall see.....

[Bearcat1996]

I can't see those schools going to the SEC because Bama, Florida, Georgia and South Carolina will block them. Bad enough the fight each other for recruits. No way they add to that mix. I could see FSU and Clemson to the B12 to expand their TV markets. GT has been rumored to the B1G along with UVA.

It ain't over til the fat lady sings......and even then.........

I dont care who in the current ACC moves where! Just move somewhere! I don't think the recruiting battles are that relevant as much now as in the past.