Big 12 talk is back thanks to Texas.

[RedDog]

Without Texas and OU, who seemingly are sure to bolt, whats left that's appealing? I still prefer staying put for a short while until the dust settles and we know what we are getting into. I realize we are not holding the cards, have little leverage, but a knee jerk panicked reaction can be more harmful than the results of patience. I am just not a fan of the Big 12 option, even if Texas stays. The next round of reorganization will only be an option for us if we haven't already aligned with the Big 12 and then can't get out of it. Yes I would rather stay for the short term in our current dumpster fire than make the financial obligation to join a bigger dumpster fire.

[insomniaisevil]

Do you prefer OUR dumpster fire?

I'll take the dumpster fire that increases tv revenue almost 10 fold.

[BearCatMarcher]

You want to join that dumpster fire of a conference?

Do you prefer OUR dumpster fire?

[bobestes]

You want to join that dumpster fire of a conference?

[insomniaisevil]

Ah ha! OK here's my take. AD at Texas is gone end of year, Coaches at Texas will be gone at end of seasons President at Texas is having his job "reviewed" on 12/12 and likely also out. These people were instrumental in the Longhorn Network and the splintering of the Big 12. They are currently the major opposition to expansion of the league.

Texas is basically doing a regime change. So I'm guessing 1 of 2 things happens. 1) Texas and OU split for Pac-12 or 2) Big 12 expands with UC and either BYU or UCF. And if you read between the lines, if 1 happens 2 is necessary to keep the conference afloat. How'd I do?

Thanks a lot for the summary!

That actually makes a lot of sense. I've followed the conference situations very closely for the past couple years...until the season began this year and I've just been out of the loop.

Hopefully some GOOD news for UC.

[Lobot]

Ah ha! OK here's my take. AD at Texas is gone end of year, Coaches at Texas will be gone at end of seasons President at Texas is having his job "reviewed" on 12/12 and likely also out. These people were instrumental in the Longhorn Network and the splintering of the Big 12. They are currently the major opposition to expansion of the league.

Texas is basically doing a regime change. So I'm guessing 1 of 2 things happens. 1) Texas and OU split for Pac-12 or 2) Big 12 expands with UC and either BYU or UCF. And if you read between the lines, if 1 happens 2 is necessary to keep the conference afloat. How'd I do?

[insomniaisevil]

Mack is reportedly stepping down from Texas per Chip Brown at Orangebloods.

Here goes the earth of its' axis for a while.

As someone who is terribly interested in this topic, but admittedly hasn't kept up enough...what does Mack stepping down do for UC?

I know all about the control the Horns have over the Big 12...but...?

All kinds of apologies if this is an idiotic question.

[Lobot]

Mack is reportedly stepping down from Texas per Chip Brown at Orangebloods.

Here goes the earth of its' axis for a while.

[coach]

One reason, the reason is real simple, if you want to be a big boy, you need to beat the big boys. The reality is that they would lose games in the sec, so they would not want to do it, but it's the only thing that will shut the critics up. They could make as much money in the sec, trust me.

[longtimefan]

Come on...really? I dont think thats the "real question"...I cant even think of one good reason why they would ever want to leave the B1G.

Right you are. Remember it's not about winning, it's about money. And the B1G will keep raking it in as long as suckers are fooled by a reputation earned by the B1G over 40 years ago.

[binturong07]

The real question here is if osu is so big and bad, why do they not try to get into the SEC and quit blocking UC in the midwest. osu always talks a lot of smack about their competition etc while waltzing thru the big 10, but at this point why do they not try to head to the SEC. If they really want to play at that level, then walk the walk and quit whining.

Come on...really? I dont think thats the "real question"...I cant even think of one good reason why they would ever want to leave the B1G.

[coach]

For what it is worth on gee and the big 12, he ruffled feather in the sec in his days at vandy. I would not expect he would carry much weight with the existing big 12 schools. He's not well like outside of big 10 circles.

The real question here is if osu is so big and bad, why do they not try to get into the SEC and quit blocking UC in the midwest. osu always talks a lot of smack about their competition etc while waltzing thru the big 10, but at this point why do they not try to head to the SEC. If they really want to play at that level, then walk the walk and quit whining.

[coach]

Strange choice, but wv is a strange place, Gee, Huggins and Holgorsen. The 3 amigos. Ha.

[longtimefan]

Ex O$U president Gordon Gee named interim president at West Virginia. This is probably not a good sign for us as I had hoped WVU would be in favor of adding UC to the Big 12, if for no other reason than geography.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/10088265/ex-ohio-state-president-gordon-gee-take-interim-west-virginia-job

[vince8290]

I think it's very possible coaches are telling recruits UC will be moving to the Big 12 and I also think UC is getting interest from the Big 12. We would be a perfect fit for the conference. Our enrollment, size of our research capabilities, location in state of Ohio, recent football and basketball success, media market, facilities are all in line with the Big 12. If we joined the Big 12 today, we would be the second largest school with the third largest media market. We may not offer a couple of sports consistent with other Big 12 schools, but that can easily be changed. I also think Whit has connections within the Big 12 league office. The Big 12 knows that UC is ready for a change. I don't see an ACC offer coming anytime soon. UC to the Big 12 would also dramatically boost the conference presence in basketball. BYU might be the other choice or one of the Florida schools such as UCF or USF or both. Texas has also be rumored to be holding things up and with a new AD on board, that may now change the league outlook and direction.