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Originally posted by red_n_black_attack View PostI am curious if the Nip is holding us back from Big12. Oklahoma would not play us unless the game was at PBS. Even the last WV game was moved down there.
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Originally posted by Panamacat View PostQuote:
Originally Posted by Binturong05
If UC joins the Big XII I feel relatively confident that UC basketball has a fighting chance of rising to the upper quartile. But when I look at Texas, Oklahoma, OSU and now even Baylor I question if the Bearcats can hang.
Just wondering if anyone has thought about which conference would be a better fit from a competition standpoint.
Funny I was thinking about the plight that West Virginia is in. 6-12 in B12 BB last season, 2-2 so far this year, but looking equally stinky. Football, not much better with 2-7 this year, 4-5 last year. Not sure I would want to follow that. For me the ACC provides the best avenue for continued success and reasonable competition in both sports.
I am curious if the Nip is holding us back from Big12. Oklahoma would not play us unless the game was at PBS. Even the last WV game was moved down there. I understand that we are improving the facilities, but the bottom line is we have an incredible homefield advantage when that stadium is rocking! It is not Seahawks loud, but is definitely a huge advantage. I recall going to Norman and being awed by the sheer number of people, but we were much farther away from the field than at Nippert.
I want out of AAC badly. My preference is Big 12 for the following reasons:
1. I'll take our chances against Texas, OU, OSU, Baylor, and the rest. It'd be fun!
2. Great traditional powers in Bball and Football! Home and home with Kansas, 'Nuff said! We wouldn't get that gaurantee in ACC, even with NC, Duke.
3. Geographically, it's about the same for travel. Flights would be required for most teams in both conferences.
4. BIG12 wants us more than ACC. a). WV wants someone close and b) those teams want a tie-in to this recruiting area (as does ACC), but c). Texas has a thing about trying to stick it to O$U
Both have pros and few if any cons vs AAC or even each other. I'd be ecstatic for either. I hope news comes sooner rather than later. When will it be decided if a conference needs a championship game to get into the 4 team playoff?
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Originally posted by Binturong05 View PostIf UC joins the Big XII I feel relatively confident that UC basketball has a fighting chance of rising to the upper quartile. But when I look at Texas, Oklahoma, OSU and now even Baylor I question if the Bearcats can hang.
Just wondering if anyone has thought about which conference would be a better fit from a competition standpoint.
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So here is a question - money, rivalries, and geography aside: Which conference would you rather be affiliated with based on potential success? I would say UC football has a better chance at rising to the upper echelon of ACC football. However, UC basketball is likely to face similar ridiculously tough competition like they faced in the BEast if they move to the ACC. If UC joins the Big XII I feel relatively confident that UC basketball has a fighting chance of rising to the upper quartile. But when I look at Texas, Oklahoma, OSU and now even Baylor I question if the Bearcats can hang.
Just wondering if anyone has thought about which conference would be a better fit from a competition standpoint.
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Originally posted by London 'Cat View PostThe ACC and, arguably, the B1G are better basketball conferences than the Big12.
Now I realize that this is just one season, and in the long it looks like the ACC might be a more solid BBall conference. But if this season has taught us anything its that looks can be deceiving and putting a bunch of previously good teams in one conference does not necessarily make the best current or future conference.
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Originally posted by CincyEngGrad02 View PostHow is the Big12 falling apart? They've got the best bball conference and a top 4 football conference.
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How is the Big12 falling apart? They've got the best bball conference and a top 4 football conference.
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New Year's resolution.....get to the ACC. I am one that remembers that the speculators thought that the Big12 would fall and the Big East was fine. It just happened the other way around. Although there is big history in the Big12 and what they were, they are falling apart with their best teams (except TX) leaving. The ACC has never been a great football conference even after raiding all of the original and newest Big East teams, they can become one. They are a great basketball conference and with expansion and the falling of the Big12, they can become great in both. In my opinion, the SEC is the only football powerhouse conference and things turn on a dime. I want UC to have a chance.
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Originally posted by dbernie41 View PostI don't know where exactly the source came from but I saw a rumor elsewhere of The B1G announcing it is inviting Virginia and Georgia Tech on Monday. Again, I have very very very little faith in this and give it about a 2% chance... but this is a rumor thread.
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It looks like the latest rumor was started by a UConn fan that has been banned from their board for similar groundless posts. Hope this one is right, though.
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Originally posted by dbernie41 View PostI don't know where exactly the source came from but I saw a rumor elsewhere of The B1G announcing it is inviting Virginia and Georgia Tech on Monday. Again, I have very very very little faith in this and give it about a 2% chance... but this is a rumor thread.
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I don't know where exactly the source came from but I saw a rumor elsewhere of The B1G announcing it is inviting Virginia and Georgia Tech on Monday. Again, I have very very very little faith in this and give it about a 2% chance... but this is a rumor thread.
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I think the push for 16 teams in four power conferences is coming soon. The Big 12 is the most vulnerable. The ACC taking UC and UConn would be a great move (no legal baggage with already built in rivalries with ACC schools). Let the Big 10, SEC and Pac 12 pick apart the Big 12 to get to 16 teams and deal with the GOR legal battles.
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Originally posted by dbernie41 View PostI heard rumors that at the Belk Bowl there were whispers of an impending B12 invite from some very prominent UCats donors during the cocktail hour.
Either way I would be VERY pleased but I feel like I would greatly prefer the ACC.
I am hopeful as they have talked about it for a while, but now seems to be on a timetable which is promising.
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