Big 12 Media Days/Expansion Reboot

[Lobot]

Needed to reboot the thread a little. Big 12 Media days happened earlier this week here in Dallas. David Boren, the president at OU, and several coaches in the league are in support of the expansion idea. Bill snyder at K-State was the most vocal advocate and I'd like to think his opinion carries some wait as he used to be an AD. Art Briles didn't come out and say it per se, but supports divisions in the league for football which only make sense if you have 12 teams.

Here's some reading material for you:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...-12-media-days

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...ion-from-day-1

http://www.bringonthecats.com/2015-k...state-wildcats

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...-12-media-days

http://newsok.com/big-12-football-wh...rticle/5435116

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8...on.html?pg=all

[RedRocker]

Is Univ. of Oklahoma sufficient academically for the Big Ten? Granted the Big Ten bent the rules for Nebraska.

Side bar: how is it the official name of the university is University of Oklahoma but the nickname is OU?

Dyslexia...

[richard k.]

This guy pretty much echoes what many Texas Longhorn fans (and probably the UT administration) really believe. That is..... that UT football could enjoy the same type of national prominence that Notre Dame does if they went the Independent route. Talk about arrogance. Does anyone outside the state of Texas (and of course UT alums) watch the Longhorn Network? I seriously doubt it, but don't tell them that and spoil their little party down in Austin.

If it opens up a spot for us alongside Oklahoma, et al, then let's all root for the Longhorns and their network to go independent. Remember, though, the Irish always had a conference home for all their other sports - anyone believe the BIG 12 would let them leave for football and stay for everything else? If not, which conference would - the ACC?

[blackattack]

Since a lot of whatever occurs within and surrounding the B12 rests on what Texas does, here's article that lays out an argument for the Longhorns to go indy:
http://www.stakingtheplains.com/2015...ve-the-big-12/

This guy pretty much echoes what many Texas Longhorn fans (and probably the UT administration) really believe. That is..... that UT football could enjoy the same type of national prominence that Notre Dame does if they went the Independent route. Talk about arrogance. Does anyone outside the state of Texas (and of course UT alums) watch the Longhorn Network? I seriously doubt it, but don't tell them that and spoil their little party down in Austin.

[swilsonsp4]

Since a lot of whatever occurs within and surrounding the B12 rests on what Texas does, here's article that lays out an argument for the Longhorns to go indy:

http://www.stakingtheplains.com/2015...ve-the-big-12/

[richard k.]

Oklahoma is considered a pretty good academic school. OU does not have a medical school and perhaps as a result they're not part of the AAU but neither is Nebraska. Nebraska used to be and got removed. I actually thought both were until I looked it up here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associ...ies#Membership

While we're on the subject of AAU, I haven't heard anything about UC gaining membership lately and then I noticed on that link that it's by invite only and with Ohoi State in it, I suspect we won't be invited due to politics. We hashed over all this a long time ago and I remermber little :/


On your side bar, I really have no idea.

Here's OU's entry If you want to look around. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Oklahoma

While I have no reason to doubt that OSU (I refuse to use the "t") would see UC's membership in the AAU in an unfavorable light, I wonder how the process actually goes, and whether ONE school can "blackball" a potential invite to another, especially if the possible invitee meets all the criteria for membership and the attempted block would be seen by all the other members as a truly petty move.

[Lobot]

Oklahoma is considered a pretty good academic school. OU does not have a medical school and perhaps as a result they're not part of the AAU but neither is Nebraska. Nebraska used to be and got removed. I actually thought both were until I looked it up here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associ...ies#Membership

While we're on the subject of AAU, I haven't heard anything about UC gaining membership lately and then I noticed on that link that it's by invite only and with Ohoi State in it, I suspect we won't be invited due to politics. We hashed over all this a long time ago and I remermber little :/


On your side bar, I really have no idea.

Here's OU's entry If you want to look around. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Oklahoma

[Binturong05]

Is Univ. of Oklahoma sufficient academically for the Big Ten? Granted the Big Ten bent the rules for Nebraska.

Side bar: how is it the official name of the university is University of Oklahoma but the nickname is OU?

[Lobot]

It would be really interesting seeing Texas in the SEC - just wonder how long the likes of Alabama, Florida, LSU, et al, would put up with the Longhorn Network and the rest of their shenanigans.

I don't believe they will. There was a theory earlier from some of the OU writers that the ACC would be the best fit for Texas because of LHN. Bare with me. It does make some sense. The ACC can take them as a part time member similar to ND. Since the ACC is already dealing with ND's TV contract so Texas wouldn't be out of the question since the confernce set a precedent. Texas and ND can then schedule each other every year OOC (?) for a P4/5 game. Other than that it makes makes no sense but from a TV money standpoint it would make some sense to Texas. I think OU runs off to the B1G if this happens and takes one other. The better schools in AAC jump to the BIG 12 and maybe they retain P5 status but I doubt it. I might mean the BIg 12 could take 3: UC, UCF and Houston. This would crush TCU and Baylor's recruiting I suspect although TCU would probably live on since they were good before they joined the BIg 12 due to coaching. Or probably, I'm throwing darts.

[coach]

Correction............step into the sec

[coach]

The sec would not take texas with the lhn, and i think texas really would have to think about joining the sec if the invite even came their way. They're not exactly knocking the cover off the ball in the b12, and to step into the b12 might plunder their fball program back to a middle of the pack team. See Michigan. They certainly would not position their situation publicly from that perspective, but they likely would be more competitive in the pac or big whatever.

[richard k.]

If OU and Kansas were to leave, it does not leave a whole lot left in the Big12. TCU and Baylor, in my opinion can not sustain their recent success. If the end game is a power 4, the bottom tier, yes Mr. Gee, the Big 12 does have bottom feeders, will be left out of expansions. I see Texas going to the SEC. OU and Kansas to the BIG, and UC going to the ACC. I do not see this happening soon but then again, I do not see UC going to a P5 conference soon.

It would be really interesting seeing Texas in the SEC - just wonder how long the likes of Alabama, Florida, LSU, et al, would put up with the Longhorn Network and the rest of their shenanigans.

[bearcatbret]

If OU and Kansas were to leave, it does not leave a whole lot left in the Big12. TCU and Baylor, in my opinion can not sustain their recent success. If the end game is a power 4, the bottom tier, yes Mr. Gee, the Big 12 does have bottom feeders, will be left out of expansions. I see Texas going to the SEC. OU and Kansas to the BIG, and UC going to the ACC. I do not see this happening soon but then again, I do not see UC going to a P5 conference soon.

[coach]

Even if we were to get an invite one wonders what the stability of that situation would be as well. It still seems to me that the possibility of the b12 breaking up and ending up in some newly formulated/reconstituted aac is as good a bet as any. It would be wonderful if the acc took a preemptive strike and increased their base including us. Much better geographically for rivalries. At some point the tv money well will run dry, and travel will matter.

[nolte50uc]

it's interesting who's on the committee. painfully obvious that it's staffed to ensure that expansion is the recommendation. (Gee is going to promote his current university, he's not going to look out for any OSU benefit at a cost to his current employer.)

on the surface, this all sounds great for UC. it's what else that's potentially going on that scares me. that said, even if Kansas and OU bolt, the remaining B12 is still > the current AAC IMO