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  • Lobot
    Administrator
    • Apr 2007
    • 28178

    #1

    Big 12 says they're stable

    Not sure this makes a difference where we're concerned but Bowlsby seems to think they're fine.

    Brent Wyrick
    92 Final Four Front Row
    @LobotC2DFW
  • Geaux Juan
    Distinguished Member
    • Mar 2017
    • 669

    #2
    Oklahoma and Texas are fine. The rest maybe not so much. There's money locked up for seven more years for the Big "12", but will the gravy train still be rolling? I keep thinking that a sports bubble burst is coming.

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    • RedDog
      Veteran
      • Jul 2007
      • 1223

      #3
      I agree with you. The Big 12 will implode as soon as the legalities of the contract can be met. This will also coincide with the BIG realignment of the entire NCAA. We just need to hang on and be positioned for inclusion. Numerous current Power 5 schools will not make the cut. And yes, Bowlsby is a knucklehead!

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      • nolte50uc
        Veteran
        • Sep 2007
        • 1033

        #4
        Originally posted by RedDog
        Numerous current Power 5 schools will not make the cut.
        that has to be the case for UC to make it into a 4x16 conference setup. that's also what makes me most nervous about UC being included in the next big shuffle. will the vanderbilts, boston colleges, and wake forests of the world actually get booted out?

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        • Lobot
          Administrator
          • Apr 2007
          • 28178

          #5
          Originally posted by nolte50uc

          that has to be the case for UC to make it into a 4x16 conference setup. that's also what makes me most nervous about UC being included in the next big shuffle. will the vanderbilts, boston colleges, and wake forests of the world actually get booted out?
          That should happen. Not sure it will. I'm thinking unless the CFP makes schedule strength a major part of the eventual setup that a lot of the perennial bottom dwellers are necessary to the big guns for Ws. Would anyone actually want to watch a 16 team SEC where every team is loaded with blue chip recruits and they all go around 6-6 every year? There's something to be said for parity and the excitement of competition but I'm not sure near .500 records would hold interest long term if something like this were to occur.
          Brent Wyrick
          92 Final Four Front Row
          @LobotC2DFW

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          • red_n_black_attack
            Veteran
            • Apr 2007
            • 4130

            #6
            Originally posted by Lobot

            That should happen...Would anyone actually want to watch a 16 team SEC where every team is loaded with blue chip recruits and they all go around 6-6 every year? There's something to be said for parity and the excitement of competition but I'm not sure near .500 records would hold interest long term if something like this were to occur.
            Parity works for the NFL; however you'd never get parity in the college game. There is a reason the high spending teams were big winners before free agency and also why there is a salary cap and compensatory picks. I am not alleging that recruits are being paid. The kids get to choose, the colleges don't draft. Kids choose schools for many reasons and the winning schools have a lot of positives with few negatives. It doesn't matter if current P5 teams are booted and school like UC or BYU or others are added to the Super 64...There will always be top feeders and bottom dwellers with the occasional rise of the Northwesterns of the world. A four conference Super 64 only makes sense if the big boys totally disavow their associations with the NCAA and the spirit of amateur athletics. It may or may not happen, but if it does it will be driven by money. Should the big boys decide they want to pay players full cost of attendance plus a stipend, they will do so only because a media outlet (or several) have made vague promises of tons of cash to support the new system. To be clear, this will bring about a new type of March Madness as the next cash cow the conferences want to tap into is the current contracts that are held by the NCAA for the Tourney as football is nearly maxed out. Football will still be king due to the amount of money available, but basketball brings the new money directly to the conferences.

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            • Lobot
              Administrator
              • Apr 2007
              • 28178

              #7
              I had to laugh at this last night.

              Brent Wyrick
              92 Final Four Front Row
              @LobotC2DFW

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              • red_n_black_attack
                Veteran
                • Apr 2007
                • 4130

                #8
                Originally posted by Lobot
                Let this die...
                Red and Black are more of an Attitude than merely a color combination.

                Intimidate! Dominate! Celebrate!

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                • Lobot
                  Administrator
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 28178

                  #9
                  Originally posted by red_n_black_attack

                  Let this die...
                  Totally agree.
                  Brent Wyrick
                  92 Final Four Front Row
                  @LobotC2DFW

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                  • Lobot
                    Administrator
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 28178

                    #10
                    For those who missed this yesterday David Boren at Oklahoma retired. Can't say I'm all that sorry to see him go.

                    Last edited by Lobot; 09-21-2017, 08:16 AM.
                    Brent Wyrick
                    92 Final Four Front Row
                    @LobotC2DFW

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                    • blackattack
                      Veteran
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 1359

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Lobot
                      For those who missed this yesterday David Boren at Oklahoma retired. Can't say I'm all that sorry to see him go.

                      https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/col...ow-decide-next

                      In terms of what it means for the future of the Little 12 it's a non-event. Texas calls the shots in the Little 12........always has and always will.

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                      • Lobot
                        Administrator
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 28178

                        #12
                        Bowlsby reiterated this this morning that they're staying at 10 and expansion is no longer up for discussion.
                        Brent Wyrick
                        92 Final Four Front Row
                        @LobotC2DFW

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                        • richard k.
                          Veteran
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 1402

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Lobot
                          Bowlsby reiterated this this morning that they're staying at 10 and expansion is no longer up for discussion.
                          It'll be up for discussion in a NY minute if the Sooners (&/or Longhorns) up and leave.

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                          • coach
                            Veteran
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 4356

                            #14
                            After what happened last time, i doubt anyone will ever know if they look to expand until it's done.

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                            • Bearcats1232002
                              Member
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 366

                              #15
                              Originally posted by coach
                              After what happened last time, i doubt anyone will ever know if they look to expand until it's done.
                              I agree. I don't think you can count on it or count it out.

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