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  • Elephant in the Room (This isn't Going Well At all)

    I'm sorry but this coach and his staff continues to disappoint at almost every single turn. I'm honestly not trying to sound hyerprbolic when I say that this may even putting it mildly. A downright disaster seems more appropriate of a description.

    Can anyone tell me one single thing this staff does well? High School Recruiting? Transfer portal? X's and O's? Team culture? Building excitement for the program? Where are they meeting expectations? Cuz I can't think of any examples. I can't even think of one single thing that I'd even give them a "C" or above.

    The excitement around the name of the hire was about as low as possible, but that in of itself is not the end of the world. But then couple that with that the fact coaches personality also generates little to no enthusiasm. For a program like UC, who had been building and building up their program, who still has to compete for eyeballs with the Bengals, Reds, FC Cincinnati and other regional schools this is problematic IMHO.

    I believe what you've seen slowly transpire is the destruction of so much of what Luke had built up, and had built upon the work of many others (RM, MD, BK, BJ). There is next to zero excitement for UC football around the city. Outside of diehards I hear almost no one talking about it. Heck, even going into last year, with a brand new coach and a brand new (Power 5) league, the Bearcat conversation around the proverbial water cooler seemed pretty minimal, if not completely non-existent .

    I understand you're replacing a big name, and that there's turnover and new faces, but I'm sorry there should have been way more buzz surrounding the team. New coaches and new leagues should have a built-in level of excitement but that didn't seem to translate here. IMO it was seemingly squashed by an absolute dumpster fire of a hire.

    Anyone remember when it was announced Scott Satterfield's staff budget was like 7.5 million dollars, at the time on par with schools like Clemson and Nebraska, and in the top 15 of all teams? Does it look like to you guys that Scott Satterfield has built an elite staff? I mean he's had 2 offseasons to put all that money to use. Fwiw, last year they only used, I believe, 4.2 million. Why aren't they using their full allotment?

    How do you guys feeling about the new "GM" we brought in? Does it seem like he's getting good bang for his buck? Has he elevated recruiting? Do you think he's attracting the talent needed to be a top program?

    We had an OC immediately bolt for an assistant NFL job. Our DC, who was also the AHC, just left to become the CO-DC and Safties coach at Ol' Miss. We've has numerous other departues. Is this not a little concerning? Supposedly we have plenty of money, and yet a DC who spent is entire paid career with Satterfield takes a job with a lower title. And who does Coach bring in to replace him? The LB coach from Iowa State? You serious, Clark? Something isn't right.

    I can't even remember the last time I saw a recruit attatched to us, even if just on a visiit, that is top 300. It's like this staff won't even attempt at signing a 90 rating recruit or above. And if you look at many of the offer lists it only looks worse. We're beating out the likes of Buffalo, Ohio U, Bowling Gree, East Carolina, Boston College. If you look at many of our average composite ratings they're trailing the likes of Vandy, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, Maryland, and BYU. They're on par with the likes of USF, Tulsa, Cal and Houston.

    I think we all know we BADLY needed WR help this year, right? So who did this staff go out and get in the portal? A former walk-on from Florida Atlantic who had 400 yards and 4 TD's last year. Seriously, that's maybe who they're highest on. With Power 5 money, about 200 million in facility upgrades, and what's supposed to be middle of the road NIL for the BIg 12, this is who we are capable of getting, even with immediate PT available. I'd also iike to note we just inked a DT from Southeast Mississipi St. who had 3 solo tackles last year with zeros across the board for sacks, fumbles, INT's, etc. This is where we're at.


    I'm going to wrap it up shortly here, I promise. And I apologize for those that may be offended by this, or deem unecessary or overly harsh. I really am only trying to put to words what I feel like so many are thinking... This is bad guys, real bad. This coach stinks and his staff stinks.

    I think apathy has started to set in for many and I certainly wouldn't look for the results on the field help change that. I honestly believe Scott Satterfield is just about the worst hire they could have possibly made. It's a failure on almost every level. It was doomed from the start. He's not a good coach, he's not a good recruiting, and personality wise he not at all a fit. Cunningham and/or whatever boosters pushed for this have killed any and all momentum from the college football playoff. While we should be improving in many areas, due to increased spending and increased exposure, we have somehow manage to regress. There's a lot of blame to go around and many should feel absolutely embarrassed. What's been done to ths program is almost unbelievable. And I REALLY, REALLY hope they're already planning on how theyre going to approach the next hire this upcoming offseason.

    /rantover

  • #2
    I agree with much of your assessment especially with CSS bringing his homies with him from UL who have no history of producing football players. His sticking with Emory Jones for the entire season was a joke and turned my enthusiasm for UC football to non existent. And watching his post game presser's are predictable and generic coach speak. With that being said it's unfortunate but whoever it was that lobbied for this hire probably has enough sway to force this contract to continue in duration. And it's safe to say that there is no one willing to pay his buy out to bring him somewhere else.

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    • #3
      BWAHAHAHAHHA, one year? You may well be right with an ex cellent summary, but A) we cannot afford to buy him out, and B) no coach would trust us for hiring and firing a guy after one season playing with little recruiting and another coach's players. Please renew this discussion next August. If Satt is failed miserably this year, he will be on the hottest of seats and could be yanked after 3-5 games. However, he will get a chance to show progress is made by the beginning of year 3 at a minimum.
      Red and Black are more of an Attitude than merely a color combination.

      Intimidate! Dominate! Celebrate!

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      • #4
        Please update your editorial after UC goes 4-8 this year. Yes, we did get a couple of nice transfers, but by and large, most were average players from lower division schools. Nobody talks much about UC FB now, and a good friend of mine, who has had season tickets for 35 years, did not renew this year. I hope we can go 7-5, but my gut feeling is that it is going to be another looooooong season. Success will put an immediate end to any and all negativity.

        B.C.
        "A veteran of the Humanitarian Bowl, 1997!"

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        • #5
          Originally posted by red_n_black_attack View Post
          BWAHAHAHAHHA, one year? You may well be right with an ex cellent summary, but A) we cannot afford to buy him out, and B) no coach would trust us for hiring and firing a guy after one season playing with little recruiting and another coach's players. Please renew this discussion next August. If Satt is failed miserably this year, he will be on the hottest of seats and could be yanked after 3-5 games. However, he will get a chance to show progress is made by the beginning of year 3 at a minimum.
          I will respectfully disagree but you're certainly entitled to your opinion. In fact, it's no doubt your's is more commonly held (that we can't afford it).

          First thing though, I said after this year, which would be firing him after year 2. Not year 1. That's a pretty big difference, and I definitely think worth clarifying. To each their own, but I also don't buy for a second it would scare off any prosepctive coach. The money, and more importantly the guarantees, is what is most important. And if Scott Satterfield and this team are as bad as I expect them to be this season then I don't think anyone would find fault in the program moving on after two seasons. I think most people can look at the situation (W/L's, recruiting, staff, and lack of support) and see there would be nothing unfair about it.

          As far as not being able to afford it, I would STRONGLY argue they can't afford not to. I find the conservative approach here is small-minded and completely missing the big picture. You give this guy another year to save, what, an extra 4-7 million that you have had to pay had you you done it a year prior?

          When your program is being destroyed, and another given season is only continuing to make the rebuild that much harder, is it really worth it? With around 100 millon dollars already invested into Nippert and facilities, and another 80 mil being poured into a practice facilty, is now really the time to sweat such a small amount in comparison? And what of the potential loss in ticket sales, concessions, and merchandise? If you were to account for that would that not offset at least some of the cost? Also, what of NIL funding, and donations to school? Surely, if this year is another disaster, these will all suffer.

          No legitimate program allows this to continue beyond this season without serious improvement. There's currently nothing to build off of, or sell fans on. Excitement is nowhere to be found. The recruiting and portal certainly aren't being used in any way that breeds anything remotely resembling confidence. It's bad. All of it. The quality of the marketing has dropped off, the quality of the social media has dropped off, and the vibe and relationships around the city have dropped off.

          This dude is litterally killing the program. Notthing is excciting or cool about him or his program. There is absoltely no buzz. You can FEEL it, or the lack thereof. It's all been completely deflated. And it sure seems prospects and other coaches can see it as well. I don't think too many people want to have anything to do with this dumpster fire. The writing is already on the wall, he's a lame duck. The sooner they move on the better. Because long term, the damges he's causing way outweigh the cost of buying him out.

          Just my 2 cents....

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          • #6
            Trust your gut......you hear that, you live that, my gut says this isn't the right guy for the program......he's not an up and comer that needs a few years to grow into the head coaching position..... he is established.....and that is not impressive....
            This AD bailed out Loserville.... They got their guy. We got their trash and hauled it off for free for them..... I said it TRASH! ONE year used to be not enough........ Well it is now and there has been a whole year to evaluate...... No excitement, no improvement. We wont have a sucker to bail us out like Loserville did........

            BASH MY OPINION it doesn't matter any more than yours does. I feel let down as a fan, as a fan who would love to see Cincinnati succeed to the next level........unfortunately the coach is NAIA level at best
            L

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            • #7
              Y'all are rough. I might get into detail later but I'm reserving judgement on CSS and staff until after this coming season.

              I will say one thing really quickly. The fact that Emory Jones got a UDFA deal in the NFL tells me the problem wasn't entirely on him.

              Brent Wyrick
              92 Final Four Front Row
              @LobotC2DFW

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              • #8
                Long rant. Difficult to read and not respond to every point. But the one point I will make is the season ticket sales do not seem to have suffered. So, there must be some excitement surrounding the program.

                I have my doubts about CSS. The truth is he needs a legitimate OC and needs to give up that aspect of coaching. The play calling last year was so bland and predictable and that falls squarely at CSS’s feet.

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                • #9
                  When that NFL team realizes Emory Jones can't complete a 10 yard pass, he won't be around long. Every NFL team needs warm bodied QB's for training camp

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Lobot View Post
                    Y'all are rough. I might get into detail later but I'm reserving judgement on CSS and staff until after this coming season.

                    I will say one thing really quickly. The fact that Emory Jones got a UDFA deal in the NFL tells me the problem wasn't entirely on him.
                    Of course it wasn’t. Either he was asked to do things he can’t, or he just didn’t have the ability. Either way, the staff tolerated that level of play when they clearly shouldn’t have. It was the worst example of coaching up a QB I have ever seen.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by longtimefan View Post

                      Of course it wasn’t. Either he was asked to do things he can’t, or he just didn’t have the ability. Either way, the staff tolerated that level of play when they clearly shouldn’t have. It was the worst example of coaching up a QB I have ever seen.
                      I have the feeling the original OC ditching us has a lot to do with it. Seems like the offense was extremely watered down all season. Can you imagine being a college QB and getting the playbook and poof, everything is different in spring ball. What do you do?
                      Brent Wyrick
                      92 Final Four Front Row
                      @LobotC2DFW

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                      • #12
                        On vacation this year I ran into a UL fan and he thanked us for taking CSS off of their hands. That said a lot......

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                        • #13
                          We have had this coach (CSS)for one season, I recall others calling for Wes Millers head after his first season, can’t coach, has wrong lineup etc. where are those comments now??? Last year football season was a big disappointment, particularly having to watch Emory Jones, but we were competitive enough to have won 4 more games. Let the season play out, and if Satt falls on the sword you are all welcome to pile on. I for one am encouraged by our new players from the portal
                          along with those guys coming back. The Big 12 is a Big Boy league and we’ll see how we stack up after a roster refresh. In the mean time, go to the beach and enjoy your summer

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                          • #14
                            Yeah, while I’m not a Satt fan, I definitely believe he deserves year 2. I remain really excited for this season.

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                            • #15
                              Well I guess we will see. I like the RBs and the speedy wr. I am concerned with the o-line. The defense is led by one of the best , but can the rest of the team hold on. I am not enthused about the coaching, but winning changes that.

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