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  • CTT on Fox News about NIL and Portal

    CTT was on a two part series this week on what NIL and the portal have done to college FB. He actually came off pretty well, and had some good insight.

    Some of the points the story made:

    1. QB Ewers from Texas has free use of a private jet, to go home whenever he wants.
    2. The "haves" spend 8 times what the "have nots" spend to recruit the best players. Texas spent the most, and O$U was a close second. The Big 10 and the SEC spend more than all other conferences combined.
    3. CTT said that unless changes are made, college football will forever be changed and ruined.
    4. Many big schools partner with big businesses to form "collectives" to raise money. Would be like UC partnering with Krogers.
    5. 2000 players have entered the portal this year.
    6.. CTT feels players should get paid, but that there should be a limit (sort of like a salary cap) for each school, to keep some sort of parity.

    Overall, a very good story, which supports the idea that NIL and the portal will ruin the game for schools like UC unless changes are made. Apparently, congress is looking into doing something, which probably means nothing will be done.

    B.C.
    Last edited by Bearcat Chris; 12-26-2024, 09:38 AM.
    "A witness to the pinnacle of UC Football, the 2020 and 2021 seasons... not likely to ever happen again!"

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    congress getting involved = it'll get worse.

    you mean kroger's? like, UK's kroger field? - they don't seem to be real big on uc, kinda like p&g, who even have the field named after a family member - it would be nice to see more local companies putting money into uc athletics - is uc not trying to pump them, or do the companies just not care

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    • #3
      Originally posted by D.A.H. View Post
      congress getting involved = it'll get worse.

      you mean kroger's? like, UK's kroger field? - they don't seem to be real big on uc, kinda like p&g, who even have the field named after a family member - it would be nice to see more local companies putting money into uc athletics - is uc not trying to pump them, or do the companies just not care
      What's the return on investment for big companies like P&G or GE? Very little to gain. The bigger bang for you buck is local car sales or grocery where brand loyalty could reap a huge return. Same for brewery, but Rheingheist is already all-in.
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      • #4
        2,000 players in the portal and more than half of them will not find a landing spot.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by red_n_black_attack View Post

          What's the return on investment for big companies like P&G or GE? Very little to gain. The bigger bang for you buck is local car sales or grocery where brand loyalty could reap a huge return. Same for brewery, but Rheingheist is already all-in.
          maybe community / home town pride? to market that they do indeed support the local schools? goodwill?
          Last edited by D.A.H.; 12-26-2024, 01:35 PM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bearcat Chris View Post
            CTT was on a two part series this week on what NIL and the portal have done to college FB. He actually came off pretty well, and had some good insight.

            Some of the points the story made:

            1. QB Ewers from Texas has free use of a private jet, to go home whenever he wants.
            2. The "haves" spend 8 times what the "have nots" spend to recruit the best players. Texas spent the most, and O$U was a close second. The Big 10 and the SEC spend more than all other conferences combined.
            3. CTT said that unless changes are made, college football will forever be changed and ruined.
            4. Many big schools partner with big businesses to form "collectives" to raise money. Would be like UC partnering with Krogers.
            5. 2000 players have entered the portal this year.
            6.. CTT feels players should get paid, but that there should be a limit (sort of like a salary cap) for each school, to keep some sort of parity.

            Overall, a very good story, which supports the idea that NIL and the portal will ruin the game for schools like UC unless changes are made. Apparently, congress is looking into doing something, which probably means nothing will be done.

            B.C.
            Thanks for summarizing this. I haven't seen interview yet but I'm sure it got recorded by someone.

            Take everything from CTT with a grain of salt. He's not exactly known for thorough or correct research on things before opening his mouth these days. Granted that he's the only (?) Senator with FBS coaching experience but he was out of the profession before any of this happened so he probably likes what he knew better than what it currently is.

            1. Ewers Has an NIL deal with the private jet company for endorsements. I'm not sure that's any better but he's also from Southlake, TX and probably can afford one anyway. He also has an NIL endorsement deal with Uber.

            2. This wouldn't surprise me but I'd like to see the actual numbers that he's basing this quote on. Also, who qualifies as who in this scenario? Can a P4 be a have not? Asking for Wake Forest.

            3. Horse is long gone out of the barn Tommy. Thanks for playing.

            4. I like the Rheingeist answer above. Although, I understand Publix has come to town up there and if you wanted to thumb your nose at Kroger for sponsoring UK, there you go.

            5. Fuzzy stats here. At one point there were over 2700 FBS players in the portal but if you include all D1, it's way higher ~ 11,000. Either way he's under counting.

            6. He's not wrong on this one. You have to level the playing field between conferences and even schools within a conference to some extent. If it leads to a split of P4 and G5 into separate divisions with different caps then fine.

            Brent Wyrick
            92 Final Four Front Row
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Lobot View Post

              Take everything from CTT with a grain of salt. He's not exactly known for thorough or correct research on things before opening his mouth these days.
              gonna make a claim like this, then prove it. Otherwise you’re just as bad. As admin, you should know better.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by bearcat1518 View Post

                gonna make a claim like this, then prove it. Otherwise you’re just as bad. As admin, you should know better.
                Also, assuming someone’s Family net worth because of where they are from is poor taste.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by bearcat1518 View Post

                  gonna make a claim like this, then prove it. Otherwise you’re just as bad. As admin, you should know better.
                  I admit to not being perfect but I least try and look things up first when I have time, which I did before I posted my response. If you 'd like sources let me know
                  Last edited by Lobot; 12-26-2024, 04:29 PM.
                  Brent Wyrick
                  92 Final Four Front Row
                  @LobotC2DFW

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by bearcat1518 View Post

                    Also, assuming someone’s Family net worth because of where they are from is poor taste.
                    I live 15 minutes away. I know plenty of people who live there. Give it a damn rest
                    Last edited by Lobot; 12-26-2024, 03:39 PM.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by D.A.H. View Post

                      maybe community / home town pride? to market that they do indeed support the local schools? goodwill?
                      Part of the problem with the Cincinnati market is that you have the pro teams to contend with and xu to worry about. It is like Michael Jordan said when asked why he never endorses candidates, the response is because everyone buys his gear. I know that xu gave up their football program but they do still have a b-ball team.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by D.A.H. View Post

                        maybe community / home town pride? to market that they do indeed support the local schools? goodwill?
                        For profit companies are not gonna give money away if there isn't a return on investion, generally 5-7%
                        Red and Black are more of an Attitude than merely a color combination.

                        Intimidate! Dominate! Celebrate!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by red_n_black_attack View Post

                          For profit companies are not gonna give money away if there isn't a return on investion, generally 5-7%
                          And for profit companies are not going to be the first to step up. If those companies see commitment from a school’s alumni/boosters/supporters they will pay more attention. It starts with us as individuals. Until the corporate board members see that type of commitment, it will remain the status quo in their investments. I do think UC is making progress in this area. But being so far behind in its development of alumni and booster support, it needs time to catch up to others.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by bearcatbret View Post

                            Part of the problem with the Cincinnati market is that you have the pro teams to contend with and xu to worry about. It is like Michael Jordan said when asked why he never endorses candidates, the response is because everyone buys his gear. I know that xu gave up their football program but they do still have a b-ball team.
                            I will also add the Cincinnati Zoo has a lot of sponsors that I saw during the Festival of Lights.

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                            • #15
                              This story about Boise State, who is coming off a great season and the runner up for the Heisman, tells exactly what college FB has become, and where it is headed.

                              https://www.foxnews.com/sports/boise...cbo=v2-28PQ9Ui

                              B.C.

                              "A witness to the pinnacle of UC Football, the 2020 and 2021 seasons... not likely to ever happen again!"

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