UC Coaching Search Official Thread

[Carin's Dad]

Did anyone else see these reports on footballcoachscoop?:

12/15 3:00 AM - Tom Landry expressed interest in the HC job at Cincinnati.

12/15 4:09 AM - Tom Landry withdraws his interest in the Cincinnati HC job when he realizes he's dead.

[BrightGuy]

It may be too late but the three at the top of my list are:
Norm Chow - OC @ UCLA
Greg Davis - OC @ Texas
Steve Addazio - OC @ Florida
You might as well go for someone with "Big Time" college experience...

[oldcat48]

Yeah, now I see what you're saying. A couple of thoughts:

1) I researched London and he looks like a great hire for Virginia. And he would be a lot like Holtz or Jones - winning at a smaller level. He coached there before I think, and he's obviously going to know the state for recruiting.

2) Will he be one second away from the NC? At Virginia, no way. Virginia is a real tough academic school - hard to get into. And they don't have the recruiting hotbed we do, either. I guess I just don't see that as a great job compared to ours, especially once our practice facilities are done in a few months.

But at UC, I'd say maybe (obviously we were this year, so it can be done). You win the Big East, you're gonna be ranked, and the question is where.But I also have to remind myself how truly rare it is for a team to go undefeated. I still can't believe my team just did (pinch).

I also see a lot of coaching hires around the country that I wonder about and kind of ask myself what were they thinking. So maybe some ADs get a feel for hiring well, I don't know.

[Forsure21]

I just don't understand why anybody has to come out and publicly say they are withdrawing their names??? Makes no sense.

[Endzone]

"This Quinn fellow" is the guy who assembled the game plans we have been using the last three years. According to several players I have seen quoted, he is one the guys on the staff who gets them fired up. He would provdie offensive continuity and we would likely keep all of what most everyone recognizes as the best recruiting class in UC history.

Butch Jones was the OC at CMU in Kelly's first year before going to WVU for two years to coach WRs. He was hired from WVU when Kelly came to UC.

Youngstown was a D-1aa power under Tressel. He won four D-1aa titles in 14 years. Neither the school nor Tressel was unknown when tOSU hired him.

Alright, I was wrong about Butch Jones. I thought his background was defense.

[bearcat25]

I sure hope we name a coach soon. Checking the message boards every 10 minutes is really keeping me from getting any work done!!!!

[Forsure21]

I sure hope we name a coach soon. Checking the message boards every 10 minutes is really keeping me from getting any work done!!!!

Lol me too

[#41]

And either Jones or Holtz has certainly done that. I think these are both excellent candidates. And I would guess there's even a second tier of guys who would be winners here, as well, but haven't even had an opportunity to interview yet, and may not if we find our guy early.

Holtz runs a compeltely different style of offense than Kelly did. I don't know why you'd bring him in, given the roster of players UC has to work with.

You're bringing back an offense built to run the spread with a QB (Collaros) who has shown himself to be not only adept at running the spread but with star-potential as a spread QB. Why would you upset the apple cart to bring a guy like Skip Holtz on board?

I can see if you're bringing in a great, big-name hire -- but is a guy like Holtz worth wholesale changes to the team's gameplan?

[Former Lurker]

I don't really understand your question, so I apologize in advance. I mean, who do you want instead of Holtz or Jones? Maybe a better question is who do you think would actually look at UC from other BCS conference schools?

You want to hire a winner, and there's probably no conference or near conference winner at the other BCS schools who would take what is, quite generously stated, a lateral. I don't want to hire a middle of the pack guy from a BCS school because I want someone who wins. I don't want a coordinator because they've never sat in the chair, never had to put a staff together, never had it all on them. I want a guy who's 1) Been a head guy and ran his own program, and 2) WON. Period.

And either Jones or Holtz has certainly done that. I think these are both excellent candidates. And I would guess there's even a second tier of guys who would be winners here, as well, but haven't even had an opportunity to interview yet, and may not if we find our guy early.

Maybe the ideal is a guy who used to be an assistant at your program, left for a HC gig where he succeeded, and now wants to return as HC. Like Earle Bruce at tOSU. It's not an exact analogy, but Chuck Martin might fit the bill, since he was BK's assistant for four years at GVSU before taking over as HC, where he has done very well. Butch Jones also fits to a lesser extent; I think he only worked for BK for one year, and has been HC at CMU for only three seasons.

Also, I don't think that it's a foregone conclusion that, if Quinn is hired, all of BK's other assistants besides Coombs and Hinton will go to ND. A job as a coordinator here might be more desirable than one as a position coach there.

[applegbt]

I just don't understand why anybody has to come out and publicly say they are withdrawing their names??? Makes no sense.

Because they are in the middle of trying to recruit, and coaches/recruiters from competing schools will use your candidacy against you.

[daap_bearcat97]

Apparently, just as we all suspected...bogus?!? Well, that is unless MT called BearcatLair.com and told them to squash the rumor becasue it does have some validaty?!? IDK, but I am going witha ll of our gut instinct's in saying tht it was 110% false.

http://www.wlwt.com/sports/21971510/detail.html

Hopefully we will know something soon, I agree I am getting now work done. It has been like this for the past 2 weeks...first the BK thing, now the search for our new coach...stay tuned.

Go Cats.

[Thegreatone]

I think this was backtracking on the bearcatliars part. They put some stuff on the website and when everyone shot it down they panicked and said gotcha!

Lame and pethetic.

People actually pay money for this type of stuff?

[qsilvr2531]

Tressel had been an assistant to Earle Bruce for three years; his hiring was seen not as a departure, but as a return to an earlier, more successful, era.

For many OSU fans it was seen as a reach at the time. The hire did not make people in Columbus happy (at least not until he beat UM that year, then all was forgotten and it was the greatest hire in college football history).

[#41]

I think this was backtracking on the bearcatliars part. They put some stuff on the website and when everyone shot it down they panicked and said gotcha!

Lame and pethetic.

People actually pay money for this type of stuff?

Neither options is particularly good for BearcatLair -- either they posted completely fabricated and unsourced crap and posted it as "insider information" or they knowingly posted false information, passing it off as the truth, just to ferret out people stealing their stuff.

No reputable news organization behaves in such a manner. I can't believe that Rivals allows them to continue with the branding.

[ralph1950]

According to Scoop it is down to Jones and Holtz:

Cincinnati:
Our sources have told us that the vacant Head job is down to Butch Jones (Central Michigan Head Coach) and Skip Holtz (East Carolina Head Coach) to
replace Brian Kelly.