UC Coaching Search Official Thread

[BearcaTim]

Beano Cook.

[2kirkalypse]

Not sure why anyone would be against Holtz or Sumlin. Sumlin is a midwest guy and is an offensive genius

[Cincyillini]

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Hey guys, Gator fan here, hope you guys don't mind if i chime in. First off i know what you guys are going through. When Florida lost Steve Spurrier to the NFL it was pretty deflating and we had to suffer through 3 bad years under Ron Zook before we finally bounced back.

just had to twist that knife, didn't you?

[colocat]

Great list, Brantley. I should know this, but isn't Jagodzinski the coach BC fired for flirting with the NFL? I'm not sure if I'd like to go down that road....

Hey guys, Gator fan here, hope you guys don't mind if i chime in. First off i know what you guys are going through. When Florida lost Steve Spurrier to the NFL it was pretty deflating and we had to suffer through 3 bad years under Ron Zook before we finally bounced back.

Cincinnati has come along way from back when you guys were in Conference USA. You have won the Big East two years in a row, and were 1 second away from playing in the national championship. Like Auburn in 2004 you guys were screwed because of the lame BCS system.

Anyway if i were Cincinnati i would go after the following coaches

#1. Tommy Tuberville, the former Auburn coach.

#2. Chris Peterson-Boise State. He has had more success than Dan Hawkins did there. Boise State is about to make their 2nd BCS bowl game under him. They have a wide open offense similiar to Cincy's and nobody has given him a shot yet.

#3. Kyle Wittingham-Utah. He is a former coach under Urban Meyer. He runs a similar spread offense that Urban Meyer does and he has had success doing it.

#4. Bronco Mendenhall-BYU. They have been a consistent program there, his offense are pretty explosive and he wins ball games.

#5. Jeff Jagodzinski- OC for the Tampa Bay Bucs. He went 20-8 as Boston College's head coach. 11-3 his first year and 9-3 his second year when he had to replace Matt Ryan. He has shown somewhat he can win at the collegiate level.

#6. Skip Holtz-East Carolina: He has had success there and a big school will grab him soon

#7. Kevin Sumlin-Houston. I saw you guys listed you don't want him, don't understand why.

#8. Butch Jones-Central Michigan: He has had a lot of success there and it would be another great CMU higher for Cincinnati.

#9. Larry Fedora-Southern Miss: Served as OC for Florida in 2004, served as OC at Oklahoma State from 2005-2007. His record at Southern Miss is 14-11 which isn't bad considering its southern miss. He has ties to the south for recruiting, he runs a wide open and attacking offense.

#10. Mark Whipple-OC of the Miami Hurricanes. He won a championship with UMASS in Division 1-AA.

#11. Todd Graham-Tulsa. His first two years at Tulsa he won over 10 games each year.

[bcatnews]

Gruden has a clause in his contract that prevents him from coaching anywhere in 2010. If he took a coaching job, he would have to pay back the entire contract and pay a buy out. UC would never be able to cough up the millions to cover that.

Skip Holtz is the man. Hire him tomorrow.

NOOOO!!!! He will be ND's hire in three years when they can Kelly and his lying a$$

[Black Rock]

I want to bring up an obvious dark horse candidate, but it is an interesting idea.

Chuck Martin http://www.gvsulakers.com/sports/m-f...n_chuck00.html(Here's his bio)head coach at Grand Valley State University (BK's former school, and former D-coordinator) is the winningest coach in D-II since he replaced Kelly, and is an interesting candidate. He is relatively young, would be inexpensive, and has been in the Midwest for years. He also has experience replacing Kelly, and he may even be able to retain some of Kelly's assistants if he is lucky, since he already knows them.

[#41]

Not sure why anyone would be against Holtz or Sumlin. Sumlin is a midwest guy and is an offensive genius

Why I don't like Sumlin:

1. No major coaching experience in the Midwest -- Dude is from Indiana, but if you did a bio on me, it'd say I was born in Tampa, Florida. That doesn't mean I know a thing about what Tampa is like now, or that I would be able to go down there and work effectively.

He has 2 years as a WR coach at Purdue. Other than that, his entire resume is in the deep south.

2. Rice and UTEP -- His Houston teams have been vastly more talented than their competition, but they've still taken bad losses in the last two years. There was NO reason for Houston, with a Heisman QB candidate and superior talent, to lose to UTEP this year and ZERO reason for them to lose to Rice last season.

Sumlin has been out-coached in several of these games, which troubles me.

There are other little things about Sumlin that I'm not keen on, but those two stick out as glaring deficiencies for me. When you add that his ranked team this year is mostly comprised of upperclassmen (I think 15 or 16 of the 22 starters are juniors or seniors -- who he didn't recruit), it becomes a little more difficult to just say "well, his teams are ranked, he must be a good coach."

I think you have to look a little deeper, IMO.

[rayscott425]

Quinn,Quinn,Quinn

[Brantley12]

just had to twist that knife, didn't you?

Sorry im just hoping you guys avoid the same poor hire that Florida made.

[cafemerald]

what about Skip Holtz? He's done a good job at East Carolina, clearly has a coaching pedigree.

I am very high on Skip Holtz. I think he has done a terrific job with lower level recruits and knows how to manage a game. I also think the Holtz at the end of his name may appeal to some recruits.

However we need to ensure whoever it is stays. No buyout no termination.

[Brantley12]

Great list, Brantley. I should know this, but isn't Jagodzinski the coach BC fired for flirting with the NFL? I'm not sure if I'd like to go down that road....

The NY Jets wanted to interview him and Boston College told him if he went he would be fired.

He has not received an NFL job yet and his currently an offensive coordinator.

[OhioFootball]

The NY Jets wanted to interview him and Boston College told him if he went he would be fired.

He has not received an NFL job yet and his currently an offensive coordinator.

Jagodzinski is not coaching anywhere right now. The Bucs fired him before the year started. He has no job right now.

[juckerrules]

Hey guys, Gator fan here, hope you guys don't mind if i chime in. First off i know what you guys are going through. When Florida lost Steve Spurrier to the NFL it was pretty deflating and we had to suffer through 3 bad years under Ron Zook before we finally bounced back.

Cincinnati has come along way from back when you guys were in Conference USA. You have won the Big East two years in a row, and were 1 second away from playing in the national championship. Like Auburn in 2004 you guys were screwed because of the lame BCS system.

Anyway if i were Cincinnati i would go after the following coaches

#1. Tommy Tuberville, the former Auburn coach.

#2. Chris Peterson-Boise State. He has had more success than Dan Hawkins did there. Boise State is about to make their 2nd BCS bowl game under him. They have a wide open offense similiar to Cincy's and nobody has given him a shot yet.

#3. Kyle Wittingham-Utah. He is a former coach under Urban Meyer. He runs a similar spread offense that Urban Meyer does and he has had success doing it.

#4. Bronco Mendenhall-BYU. They have been a consistent program there, his offense are pretty explosive and he wins ball games.

#5. Jeff Jagodzinski- OC for the Tampa Bay Bucs. He went 20-8 as Boston College's head coach. 11-3 his first year and 9-3 his second year when he had to replace Matt Ryan. He has shown somewhat he can win at the collegiate level.

#6. Skip Holtz-East Carolina: He has had success there and a big school will grab him soon

#7. Kevin Sumlin-Houston. I saw you guys listed you don't want him, don't understand why.

#8. Butch Jones-Central Michigan: He has had a lot of success there and it would be another great CMU higher for Cincinnati.

#9. Larry Fedora-Southern Miss: Served as OC for Florida in 2004, served as OC at Oklahoma State from 2005-2007. His record at Southern Miss is 14-11 which isn't bad considering its southern miss. He has ties to the south for recruiting, he runs a wide open and attacking offense.

#10. Mark Whipple-OC of the Miami Hurricanes. He won a championship with UMASS in Division 1-AA.

#11. Todd Graham-Tulsa. His first two years at Tulsa he won over 10 games each year.

Definitely agree with either Petersen or Sumlin...really agree with most of your head coach suggestions....would prefer someone with head coaching experience as opposed to a coordinator

[2kirkalypse]

Why I don't like Sumlin:

1. No major coaching experience in the Midwest -- Dude is from Indiana, but if you did a bio on me, it'd say I was born in Tampa, Florida. That doesn't mean I know a thing about what Tampa is like now, or that I would be able to go down there and work effectively.

He has 2 years as a WR coach at Purdue. Other than that, his entire resume is in the deep south.

2. Rice and UTEP -- His Houston teams have been vastly more talented than their competition, but they've still taken bad losses in the last two years. There was NO reason for Houston, with a Heisman QB candidate and superior talent, to lose to UTEP this year and ZERO reason for them to lose to Rice last season.

Sumlin has been out-coached in several of these games, which troubles me.

There are other little things about Sumlin that I'm not keen on, but those two stick out as glaring deficiencies for me. When you add that his ranked team this year is mostly comprised of upperclassmen (I think 15 or 16 of the 22 starters are juniors or seniors -- who he didn't recruit), it becomes a little more difficult to just say "well, his teams are ranked, he must be a good coach."

I think you have to look a little deeper, IMO.

not everyone is going to like everything about a coach, its just not possible. Every coach gets outcoached at least 2-3 times a year. Really, everything you are saying about him could be said about Kelly too

[#41]

not everyone is going to like everything about a coach, its just not possible. Every coach gets outcoached at least 2-3 times a year. Really, everything you are saying about him could be said about Kelly too

Kelly had been recruiting in the Midwest for over a decade when he was brought to UC. Sumlin has near zero experience in that regard.