UC Coaching Search Official Thread

[shadyo]

If we get a guy that fits this profile and he is successful, be prepared for him to leave in three years and be searching again.

If we have to replace coaches every three years because they have the kind of success that BK had, so be it. Eventually the football program will produce enough revenue that we will be able to compete financially with most of the big boys. Our program still needs to catch up to our team. The fact that we sold out our SB ticket allotment in three days is a great sign. We still have a way to go, but we will get there. GO BEARCATS!

[catsfan32]

Would definitely be a GREAT dessert, BUT the rest of the meal has been wonderful as well...probably the best ever. Seriously a full 13 course meal and the first 12 courses have been PERFECT. EVERY ingredient on the table shined and worked perfectly together. Only problem was that between the 12th and 13th course (dessert), the Chef walked by the table and sh!t his pants. It was disgusting and made everyone puke. Doesn't take away from the great meal he had already prepared, but I'd really like a new Chef to prepare my dessert and come in to make some wonderful meals for years to come. GO CATS!!! Lets have some gator!

Way out of the box and not sure it would even be the perfect fit, but what about Bill Cowher?

HAHA great post! I like Cowher, but I am very suspect with professional coach's trying to coach college.

[DMoney_70]

I love Sumlin's resume but Lance had some input from someone that also had this to say about him:

I think he's content to wait for a Big 12 opening rather than be convinved to come back to the midwest where he grew up and played college football.

He's still my #1 choice but I'd be weary of him also seeing UC as a stepping stone. Aren't we really about to the point that we shouldn't be a stepping stone any more?

[Dannyboy]

He's still my #1 choice but I'd be weary of him also seeing UC as a stepping stone. Aren't we really about to the point that we shouldn't be a stepping stone any more?

Any team can be a stepping stone, though. The Head Ballcoach left FLORIDA. No team is immune. So we should hire the best guy available and try to win. I only care about winning.

[Hartz821]

Jones talking to Marshall. I like that he is talking to otehr schools, I think UC's program can out rank Marshall's, he would be a great fit at UC.

http://www.detnews.com/article/20091211/SPORTS0203/912110416/1133/sports0203/Report--CMU-coach-Butch-Jones-interviewing-at-Marshall

[cincy34]

If we have to replace coaches every three years because they have the kind of success that BK had, so be it. Eventually the football program will produce enough revenue that we will be able to compete financially with most of the big boys. Our program still needs to catch up to our team. The fact that we sold out our SB ticket allotment in three days is a great sign. We still have a way to go, but we will get there. GO BEARCATS!

That is all great and good. winning is paramount, but it is easier to strike out on a coach if your trying to replace them every three years. I have confidence in MT, but if he has to do this every three years he will eventually hire a dud. for every BK there is a Kragthorpe. Inconsistency kills any football program.

I would rather take my time in hiring a coach that I think will stay. Look for connections to Cincy.

[bobestes]

Jones talking to Marshall. I like that he is talking to otehr schools, I think UC's program can out rank Marshall's, he would be a great fit at UC.

http://www.detnews.com/article/20091...ng-at-Marshall

This is assuming WE are interested in HIM. We may not be. Because if we were interested, I have an extremely hard time believing that he'd be talking to Marshall, which is a lateral in-conference move.

[Forsure21]

MT knows we need a guy that can sell and not somebody that expects to coach places with built in fan bases.

[ralph1950]

Rick Minter is available, he can get the shot to coach in the Big East he did not get before.

[mjb1979]

That is all great and good. winning is paramount, but it is easier to strike out on a coach if your trying to replace them every three years. I have confidence in MT, but if he has to do this every three years he will eventually hire a dud. for every BK there is a Kragthorpe. Inconsistency kills any football program.

I would rather take my time in hiring a coach that I think will stay. Look for connections to Cincy.

I understand what you are saying, but Cincy connections do not guarantee he will stay. RichRod is a WVU alum and he bolted. Connections are meaningless.

Another point: It is wrong to assume a coach will leave every three years if he is successful. Yes, Dantonio left after three years...but everyone knew, even when he was hired, that he had Big 11 aspirations. It was openly acknowledged. So really, it came as no surprise that he bolted for MSU when it came available. It sucked, but it wasn't surprising.

With Kelly, I think the writing was on the wall from the first season when he wouldn't deny interest in the Michigan job. It was pretty clear, despite what he was saying about building something, that Cincinnati wasn't big enough for his ego. I think, deep down, we all knew that this guy was gone as soon as one of the traditionally "elite" programs came calling.

That said, not all coaches are Brian Kelly. And also, let's get over our inferiority complex. Yes, our program is still not quite up there with some bigger ones, but we have a great track record of recent success, a fired up fan base, strong talent on the roster, and lets face it...we are the big boys in our league now. We are a very attractive job for a lot of coaches, and our aim should be to get the very best we can. Not to find someone who will never leave. That's like the difference between playing to win, and playing not to lose.

[catscratchfever]

I'm also interested in who would fill in the gaps if the Assistance Coaching crew gets cherry picked.

Now, I'm not an expert about college football, but surely there's a young, bright defensive backs coach, or d-line coach out there who would jump at the chance to become our new DC if Diacco splits.

That actually has me a little more worried than the HC - I think Thomas will do a good job there. The DC, that's not really within Thomas' realm of responsibility - the new HC will have to have a good eye for coaches as well.

To be honest, our defense sux...maybe the new D-coordinator can actually coach defense.

[cpawstoney]

In Praise Of The Cougars And Kevin Sumlin

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2009/12/cougar_football_sumlin.php

Sumlin likely staying at UH

http://cjonline.com/sports/football/2009-12-10/sumlin_likely_staying_at_uh

Sumlin says he's close to new contract with UH

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/college/houston/6762198.html

Report claims Cincinnati interested in UH coach Sumlin

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/college/houston/6765224.html

[cpawstoney]

Get to Know a Coaching Candidate: Kevin Sumlin

http://www.rockchalktalk.com/2009/12/9/1192163/get-to-know-a-coaching-candidate

Who is Kevin Sumlin?

http://washingtonstate.scout.com/2/710182.html

CoachSumlin - twitter - last post 12/3/2009

http://twitter.com/coachsumlin

Kevin Sumlin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Sumlin

[Dannyboy]

Inconsistency kills any football program.

Not really. Bad coaches kill programs. The top 10:

- Alabama. Coach has been there 3 years.
- Texas. 12 years.
- Cincinnati. 3 years, now gone.
- TCU. 10 years.
- Florida. 5 years.
- Boise. 4 years.
- Oregon. 1 year.
- Ohio State. 9 years.
- Ga Tech. 2 years.
- Iowa. 11 years.

Half of the coaches have been there under 5 years. Only 3 have been there 10+.

Michigan State fans are happy about consistency with Dantonio. Too bad he's consistently average. I'll take a new coach every 3-5 years if it means we're winning.

[RedRocker]

"Hey Urban, Mike Thomas here. Any interest in taking a 3M pay cut?" Things get out, and you don't want too many coaches turning you down, as it looks bad, and makes the coach you actually hire look like the 7th choice.

I would call Urban if I were MT to get his opinion on coaches. As an alum and a fan of the program, there is nothing wrong with getting his input for an hour or so. I'm sure he'd be receptive to this even though we are playing them in the Sugar Bowl.