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  • MicksTheGuy
    Member
    • Apr 2007
    • 478

    #1

    ND needs to be banned from the Big East

    Any school that is tied to another league does not poach from it's own. We need to kick them out of the league. They do nothing for the league except take up room. Yes I am mad. I can't believe they didn't try to get TCU's coach or Boise's coach. They went after our coach and UCONN's.
  • MDW79
    Veteran
    • Jan 2008
    • 2699

    #2
    Couldn't agree more. If I'm a BE University President, I'm fuming right now. They need to go ASAP. I hope our bball teams absolutely destroys them and runs up the score.

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    • Natiwhat
      Member
      • Feb 2008
      • 159

      #3
      Is there any sort of rule, precedent or at least unstated understanding about something like this? Is it truly unheard of for teams to pick off coaches from the same conference? Granted, ND isn't in the BE in football, but their basketball allegience does make this hurt a bit more. Remember when their bball teams were horrible? They've really used the BE to positive effect in that regard.

      I'm with you all - all the way in, or all the way out. I'm just wondering if the BE and college sports teams in general really considers it as big of a deal as we do.

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      • ralph1950
        Banned
        • Apr 2007
        • 3494

        #4
        Originally posted by MicksTheGuy
        Any school that is tied to another league does not poach from it's own. We need to kick them out of the league. They do nothing for the league except take up room. Yes I am mad. I can't believe they didn't try to get TCU's coach or Boise's coach. They went after our coach and UCONN's.
        You are so wrong with this comment, grow up, move on to the next coach. The Bearcats remain 12-0 and are playing Florida in the Sugar Bowl.

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        • jadar
          Junior Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 4

          #5
          Amen to that. Even though they are probably relieved that Edsall wasn't picked, I can't believe the UCONN brass could be real happy either.

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          • Levittation
            Member
            • Feb 2008
            • 180

            #6
            I guess my question is how valuble is Notre Dame to the Big East in the eyes of Big East?
            From a fan's perception they just seem to always get there way - or as if they are above the rest of the conference. Why do we always play them at US Bank Arena for Men's Basketball and not at 5/3 Arena? I know they have certain special scheduling criteria. Not the most ideal example but I remeber in Volleyball they would not play a Friday match forcing the UC women's team to play two matches on consecutive days - Saturday/Sunday as opposed to the Big East norm of Friday/Sunday.

            To me Notre Dame comes off as if they feel they are doing the Big East a favor by even being in the conference. I would love to see the Big East simply say you are either all in or out.

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            • Bruce Monnin
              Member
              • Apr 2007
              • 403

              #7
              Dump Notre Dame and bring in a 9th football school.

              Now.

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              • Deaf_Bearcat
                Veteran
                • Aug 2007
                • 1345

                #8
                Originally posted by ralph1950
                You are so wrong with this comment, grow up, move on to the next coach. The Bearcats remain 12-0 and are playing Florida in the Sugar Bowl.
                If it is the incident that happened at least months ago, I would agree with you, but if it is the fresh one (less than 24 hours ago) I would have not agreed with you. They have their freedom to vent out their frustrations or disappointments as long as any incidents did not happen a long time ago. I am sure almost all of us will move on in a long run like we had with Huggins almost 5 years ago.
                I bleed red and black!!!!

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                • RedRocker
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                  • Nov 2008
                  • 2180

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Natiwhat
                  Is there any sort of rule, precedent or at least unstated understanding about something like this? Is it truly unheard of for teams to pick off coaches from the same conference? Granted, ND isn't in the BE in football, but their basketball allegience does make this hurt a bit more. Remember when their bball teams were horrible? They've really used the BE to positive effect in that regard.

                  I'm with you all - all the way in, or all the way out. I'm just wondering if the BE and college sports teams in general really considers it as big of a deal as we do.
                  One of the reasons UC didn't go after Tom Crean was that he was at Marquette at the time. UC and others honor this unwritten rule. Holier than thous such as Notre Dame don't. They believe they are entitled to whoever they want when they want just like the Yankees in baseball and Cowboys in football.

                  I'm all for booting them and adding Memphis. Helps with FB scheduling and probably improves BB. Even looking at Kelly or Edsall calls for immediate removal.
                  RIP #12 Greg Cook (1946-2012)

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                  • Natiwhat
                    Member
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 159

                    #10
                    Well I think ideally we'd want ND to just join for football. If they won't agree to that, then I'm 1000% percent behind getting them out of our bball league, as well as the other sports. Someone needs to start a petition...

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                    • dp3113
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                      • May 2007
                      • 1400

                      #11
                      ND isn't in the big east for football. Tubberville went from Ole Miss to Auburn, Tubby Smith went from UGA to UK- and they are actually in the same conference for their respective sports, unlike ND who does not play big east football...this stuff happens- deal with it. UC has been relevant for 3 years now. Coaches aren't going to stay until BCS caliber success is sustained over a period of time. It has only been 2 years for us.

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                      • 1977 BearCat
                        Distinguished Member
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 531

                        #12
                        Originally posted by dp3113
                        ND isn't in the big east for football. Tubberville went from Ole Miss to Auburn, Tubby Smith went from UGA to UK- and they are actually in the same conference for their respective sports, unlike ND who does not play big east football...this stuff happens- deal with it. UC has been relevant for 3 years now. Coaches aren't going to stay until BCS caliber success is sustained over a period of time. It has only been 2 years for us.
                        If I'm not mistaken, all those schools you mention play ALL sports in the SEC. They are ALL in it together. ND is being allowed to pick and choose what best for them and the rest of us be damned. I would have less of a problem with ND doing what it did if they were bringing something to the table. Right now they are eating the food but they don't have to pay for any of it.

                        They need to be told "all-in or all-out" and soon!

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                        • ralph1950
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 3494

                          #13
                          Grow up and get over it. Brian Kelly gave UC fans an Orange Bowl and a Sugar Bowl, which were not even a gleem in UC's eyes before 2005.

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                          • #41
                            Distinguished Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 889

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ralph1950
                            Grow up and get over it. Brian Kelly gave UC fans an Orange Bowl and a Sugar Bowl, which were not even a gleem in UC's eyes before 2005.
                            Happy to have experienced it.

                            Still doesn't make it right that Notre Dame is allowed to pick and choose how it affiliates itself with the Big East.

                            At this point, it's time for an ultimatum -- you're either a member of the Big East, in which case we expect the football team to join and the shenanigans to stop, or you're not.

                            Screw their entitelment mentality and "the rules don't apply to us" crap.
                            #41

                            You can give it a patriotic name, but it still sucks.

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                            • RedRocker
                              Veteran
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 2180

                              #15
                              Originally posted by #41
                              Happy to have experienced it.

                              Still doesn't make it right that Notre Dame is allowed to pick and choose how it affiliates itself with the Big East.

                              At this point, it's time for an ultimatum -- you're either a member of the Big East, in which case we expect the football team to join and the shenanigans to stop, or you're not.

                              Screw their entitelment mentality and "the rules don't apply to us" crap.
                              I'd rather have them gone. They will never change. No amount of therapy will help.
                              RIP #12 Greg Cook (1946-2012)

                              Red Rocker
                              CoB '90 MBA '04

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