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  • #46
    The House case settlement is in danger. Houston Christian U, an FCS school, has filed an objection to the plan.

    https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/558...caa-challenge/
    Brent Wyrick
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    • #47
      Originally posted by Lobot View Post
      The House case settlement is in danger. Houston Christian U, an FCS school, has filed an objection to the plan.

      https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/558...caa-challenge/
      Schools such as HCU are in a real Catch-22 situation. If they decide to participate in paying their players, they risk financial ruin for the athletics departments. They don't draw huge TV cash and don't pack large stadia. If they decide to forego paying players, they will become even more irrelevant than they are now. Many schools may need to downgrade to D2/D3.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by swilsonsp4 View Post

        Schools such as HCU are in a real Catch-22 situation. If they decide to participate in paying their players, they risk financial ruin for the athletics departments. They don't draw huge TV cash and don't pack large stadia. If they decide to forego paying players, they will become even more irrelevant than they are now. Many schools may need to downgrade to D2/D3.
        Yep and it's likely a lot of FCS schools are going to hop on the bandwagon for this settlement challenge.
        Brent Wyrick
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        • #49
          Appeals court ruling has athletes pegged as employees deserving of compensation.

          https://www.espn.com/college-sports/...etes-employees
          Brent Wyrick
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          • #50
            Originally posted by Lobot View Post
            Appeals court ruling has athletes pegged as employees deserving of compensation.

            https://www.espn.com/college-sports/...etes-employees
            Does that mean the university can have them sign a non-compete clause?

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            • #51
              Originally posted by bearcatbret View Post

              Does that mean the university can have them sign a non-compete clause?
              Probably not since the legality of non-competes is under review with the Dept of Labor. I think non-competes got shot down a while back but it might still be going through the appeals process.
              Brent Wyrick
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              • #52
                Originally posted by Lobot View Post
                Appeals court ruling has athletes pegged as employees deserving of compensation.

                https://www.espn.com/college-sports/...etes-employees
                Wow, this opens up several questions that don't yet seem to be addressed in the fact finding cases set to begin/resume. If student athletes are going to be counted similar to student employees working in the bookstore, library, or teaching assistants or grad students on stipend, then how will fair pay be determined for each type of student emplyee. Campuses do this differently today, but most have some sort of leveling system to pay entry levels less and advanced levels more, but everyone on campus at a certain level gets the same. Will a new level be created, and will student employees ask for more in some sort of collective bargaining?

                Where does it stop? Most kids begin amateur athletics and have to pay the organizations, and have fundraisers to supprt cost of equipment/travel. At some point, the kids don't pay because the revenue generated from attendance covers most of the school/organization costs. However, some of the bigger high school programs generate a ton of money for the school, and under this type of ruling they would be considered employees. Furthermore, can you have paid high school athletes compete against non-paid high school athletes.

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                • #53
                  Per the new BIg 10 commish, the House settlement will be filed in court this week.
                  Brent Wyrick
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Lobot View Post
                    The House case settlement is in danger. Houston Christian U, an FCS school, has filed an objection to the plan.

                    https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/558...caa-challenge/
                    Houston Christian's objection has been dismissed by the judge.
                    Brent Wyrick
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Lobot View Post
                      Per the new BIg 10 commish, the House settlement will be filed in court this week.
                      Filing expected on Friday per Ross Dellenger
                      Brent Wyrick
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                      • #56
                        Here's what was in it.

                        https://www.espn.com/college-sports/...-federal-court
                        Brent Wyrick
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                        • #57
                          From Matt Jones, Kentucky Sports Radio:

                          Kentucky Football placed on two years probation and will have to vacate games after the use of ineligible players for 2 plus years. NCAA said school had no knowledge This is the case where 11 players were paid for work they did not do at jobs in Lexington

                          Kentucky Football will not have to sit out any Bowl games during the two year probation period The violations were all Level 2 but led to vacation of games because the players became technically ineligible when they were paid for jobs that they did not perform

                          All of the actions that led to the UK Football probation would have been perfectly legal under new rules (it would just be characterized as a NIL deal) but they occurred before the rules

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                          • #58
                            Hearings got under way in the House settlement yesterday. Seems that the judge doesn't agree with some of it or doesn't understand certain parts of it.

                            https://www.espn.com/college-sports/...rges-revisions

                            One point is that they NCAA doesn't want NIL coming directly from boosters. The reasoning being that they can't put a spending cap on that. If the money flows through the school itself, they can cap spending.
                            Brent Wyrick
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Lobot View Post
                              One point is that they NCAA doesn't want NIL coming directly from boosters. The reasoning being that they can't put a spending cap on that. If the money flows through the school itself, they can cap spending.
                              Back to bags breaking apart at the airport.

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                              • #60
                                Denard Robinson and Braylon Edwards from Michigan have sued the NCAA over its continued use of NIL linked to them. It's an antitrust case.
                                Brent Wyrick
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