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Y'know as i go through that list, I have a hard time confidently saying he's not top 5. All great players in their own right, but not consensus All Americans. Travis may wind up being the most decorated all time but thats for what he has done as a pro, not his college career. Like they say in my part of the country, the only guy who could ever stop Michael Jordan was Dean Smith.
For arguments sake, I think my top 5 would be Cook, Brig, Sauce, Morrison and Gino. Pace would lead the next group. We can make a case for most of these guys but Pace is closer to 5 than 15.
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Ray Nolting, although before our time, was special. Jackie Lee too. Pace got noticed in part because of the success of the previous year's Cats. Some of the others did not have that national exposure. Pace was great and I am glad that he became a Cat. Would he have been All-American if he was still at Miami?Originally posted by RedDog View PostY'know as i go through that list, I have a hard time confidently saying he's not top 5. All great players in their own right, but not consensus All Americans. Travis may wind up being the most decorated all time but thats for what he has done as a pro, not his college career. Like they say in my part of the country, the only guy who could ever stop Michael Jordan was Dean Smith.
For arguments sake, I think my top 5 would be Cook, Brig, Sauce, Morrison and Gino. Pace would lead the next group. We can make a case for most of these guys but Pace is closer to 5 than 15.
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Is the criteria for Top 5 what they did in college or the success of a pro career? Some of the players listed in this thread have had very successful and long pro careers but aren't even in the UC Ring of Honor (which needs to be updated). I don't see Brad Jackson or Trent Cole or Brent Celek listed anywhere if we're going with pro careers.Originally posted by Bearcat Chris View PostPeople don’t know it but Ivan was a fantastic running back in high school at Colerain. Ivan will be remembered as perhaps the greatest player ever at Colerain, and in the top five greatest players ever at UC. Good luck to him in the NFL!
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Absolutely. The play before the pass to Bins, Pike was flushed out of the pocket, and Mardy broke out of his route and ran 1000 miles an hour toward Tony, who saw him and completed he pass for a big gain. A sack there and maybe we don't win. Next play was legendary.Originally posted by Chewbacca2099 View PostMardy Gilyard would definitely be in my top 5 "College" player. Anytime he touched the ball he had the chance to go the length of the field. Everyone remembers the Pike To Binns but it was Mardy who brought us back in that game and he should get more credit.
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Not to detract from Gino or Des but Greg Cook was the best quarterback to ever play for UC. He would have had a great NFL career if not for his shoulder injury. In fact, if he had that injury 20 years later, he would have been as good as new in two seasons. Sad story.
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agree 100% . Many never saw Cook play and he played with rules not as favorable to the passing game as today. Brig was second best.Originally posted by Greg7173 View PostNot to detract from Gino or Des but Greg Cook was the best quarterback to ever play for UC. He would have had a great NFL career if not for his shoulder injury. In fact, if he had that injury 20 years later, he would have been as good as new in two seasons. Sad story.
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@dpbrugler: The most intriguing prospect at the Senior Bowl might be #Cincinnati LB Ivan Pace. Dominant downhill. Quick-footed and smooth in drills. His size (5-10, 30 3/4” arms) creates some limitations, but SR Bowl practices and his 2022 tape show a good football player.
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