Big 12 B-Ball News

[bearcatbret]

Bill Self Confirms the Big 12 Moving to 20 Conference Basketball Games in 2024-25 (heartlandcollegesports.com)

Bill Self on Big 12 Basketball: 'It's Going to Be a Monster of a League' (heartlandcollegesports.com)

[longtimefan]

I won’t. But I won’t cheer for him either.

[bearcatbret]

Always seemed like a great kid. Interesting he feels he will spend his life after ball living in Cincinnati, great compliment to the University and people he's surrounded himself with in his time here. Wish him well at Baylor, outside of January 28th.

I just hope that our fans do not boo him during introductions.

[kskenyon4]

Some Dan Skillings quotes from media days.
Cincinnati Bearcats Star Dan Skillings Jr. Reveals What Brought Him Back | Fanrecap.com

Always seemed like a great kid. Interesting he feels he will spend his life after ball living in Cincinnati, great compliment to the University and people he's surrounded himself with in his time here. Wish him well at Baylor, outside of January 28th.

[bearcatbret]

Some Dan Skillings quotes from media days.
Cincinnati Bearcats Star Dan Skillings Jr. Reveals What Brought Him Back | Fanrecap.com

[Lobot]

I think you're looking at the wrong agency here. The state gambling agencies will police this stuff. In the investigations I've seen so far, the state gambling regulator is the body that has flagged suspicious bets.

[leeraymond372@gmail.com]

The problem is an inability to enforce it. Gambling is ubiquitous throughout society, especially among college students, athletes included. The NCAA does not have the resources.

Yeah. You are correct. I agree with you, but what message does this new policy send to the athletes, coaches, and the gambling world (especially the bookies tied to organized crime)?

[bearcatbret]

Gambling on sports is dirty, especially prop bets. The NCAA is asking for it.

I just posted on the General "NCAA Legal" thread about the sting that just arrested a bunch of people involved in point shaving and gambling. One has to wonder how common is it that players are involved and how the officiating is involved.

[longtimefan]

I know that this next comment maybe in the wrong place. Nevertheless, I saw this morning, before going to work, that the NCAA gave its approval that allows both athletes and coaching staffs to bet on professional sports. Is the NCAA insane? What can of worms will that open up? As I now understand it, the NCAA is currently investigating 13 former players for betting on sports (do not quote me on these 13 players. I got this information from AI).

I can imagine a situation where a college athlete gets in over his head with losses that he/she cannot cover by over-betting. He/she then agrees to fix a game as a way of paying off the debt. What is the rationale for allowing college athletes to bet on sports? As we all know, some kid somewhere is going to abuse this liberty and get him/herself in a world of trouble. My concern is mostly with the students and not the coaches.

I am attempting very hard to understand why the NCAA would choose to go down this road.

Gambling on sports is dirty, especially prop bets. The NCAA is asking for it.

[swilsonsp4]

I know that this next comment maybe in the wrong place. Nevertheless, I saw this morning, before going to work, that the NCAA gave its approval that allows both athletes and coaching staffs to bet on professional sports. Is the NCAA insane? What can of worms will that open up? As I now understand it, the NCAA is currently investigating 13 former players for betting on sports (do not quote me on these 13 players. I got this information from AI).

I can imagine a situation where a college athlete gets in over his head with losses that he/she cannot cover by over-betting. He/she then agrees to fix a game as a way of paying off the debt. What is the rationale for allowing college athletes to bet on sports? As we all know, some kid somewhere is going to abuse this liberty and get him/herself in a world of trouble. My concern is mostly with the students and not the coaches.

I am attempting very hard to understand why the NCAA would choose to go down this road.

The problem is an inability to enforce it. Gambling is ubiquitous throughout society, especially among college students, athletes included. The NCAA does not have the resources.

[leeraymond372@gmail.com]

I know that this next comment is perhaps in the wrong place. Nevertheless, I saw this morning, before going to work, that the NCAA gave its approval that allows both athletes and coaching staffs to bet on professional sports. Is the NCAA insane? What can of worms will that open up? As I now understand it, the NCAA is currently investigating 13 former players for betting on sports (do not quote me on these 13 players. I got this information from AI).

I can imagine a situation where a college athlete gets in over his head with losses that he/she cannot cover by over-betting. He/she then agrees to fix a game as a way of paying off the debt. What is the rationale for allowing college athletes to bet on sports? As we all know, some kid somewhere is going to abuse this liberty and get him/herself in a world of trouble. My concern is mostly with the students and not the coaches.

I am attempting very hard to understand why the NCAA would choose to go down this road.

[leeraymond372@gmail.com]

USA Today's Big 12 predictions based on poll of writers within the USA Today Network who cover Big 12 teams
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/spo...4007/?tbref=hp

UC predicted 8th

I guess being picked to finish 8th in a 16-team league is not too bad. If UC can finish 8th, it would be the last team in the top half of the league. That is respectable. If UC can at least go 9-9 in the conference, it should have a pretty good chance of making the NCAA's. Also, 9-9 in the BIG XII would mean knocking off a couple of nationally ranked teams as well. We will see.

[Lobot]

The G-league thing is in alignment with the NCAA allowing pro league players from other countries 5 years to play 4 for money. I think we have at least 2 guys on our roster that fit that scenario.

[richard k.]

[QUOTE=bearcatbret;n428714]

Most G-League players — outside of the Ignite program — are not earning big money (an average of $40,000/year). The NCAA considers that low of a salary as covering “actual and necessary expenses,” like living costs, travel, housing, etc. Players who were making above the “necessary expenses” have to pay back the difference.



In other words, these kids think that they can get paid more money playing in college.

And nobody sees anything wrong/strange about that!

[bearcatbret]

[QUOTE=kskenyon4;n428711]

Most G-League players — outside of the Ignite program — are not earning big money (an average of $40,000/year). The NCAA considers that low of a salary as covering “actual and necessary expenses,” like living costs, travel, housing, etc. Players who were making above the “necessary expenses” have to pay back the difference.



In other words, these kids think that they can get paid more money playing in college.