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  • zykarious
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    Originally posted by London 'Cat View Post
    I'm not disappointed in the loss - I expected them to lose. On the road. Statically higher rated opponent. Maybe other reasons. However, I did not expect them to look so bad while losing. That is what is disappointing. They could not shoot, could not defend, still can't make free throws, and about half the shots taken by the 'Cats were 3s. They just aren't a good team, or they did not play to their potential last night. Skillings is scoring well at 18 PPG in conference games. Aziz has been solid for the most part. But the rest of the team seems overmatched by BigXII competition. Thomas looks good at times but tries to pass with one hand resulting in too many turnovers. And what about the shot doctor who was supposed to improve everyone's shooting form? I haven't seen any improvement in that area. At least against AZ they fought back to make it a game at the end. But they were never in the game against Baylor.
    DayDay's shot has improved massively (28% last year, 43% currently this year).

    I agree on the rest though, it's not the loss, it's the way we lost and the general trend of Wes being unwilling to make changes. He did put Fredrick, then Reed in for about 30 seconds each at the end of the first half, but that reeked more of desperation that trying to make a real change.

    Skillings, DayDay and Aziz look like they belong and they care. Everyone else is either over-matched and/or don't give 100% most of the time.

    On the subject of disappointment, Mitchell has been. His defensive ability was overhyped, he's not a bad defender by any means, but he's not the elite defender that Newman was.
    Last edited by zykarious; 01-08-2025, 10:06 AM.

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  • leo from jersey
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    Originally posted by Carthage World View Post

    Yeah. That's more become more obvious than ever after these past few games. Simas seems better suited to be a 6th man catch and shoot guy off the bench while the PnR game with Jizzle/Aziz is clearly not effective against Big 12 comp. The offense needs a major revamp.
    How ??????????? They brought in the shot doctor? Is it shooting , shot selection or the ability to get a good shot. How is this corrected? A floor leader might help, but there is none to be found this year. Hero ball is here this year. CWM must go to the portal and get a couple team players. If the shots fall, UC has a chance, but there is a reason that the shots are not falling against better competition. Lobs are not the answer either as the last 3 games has proven. I don't know Chuck either.
    Last edited by leo from jersey; 01-08-2025, 09:28 AM.

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  • Carthage World
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    Originally posted by sedz View Post
    Jizzle and Simas especially look overmatched against long athletic defenses. Neither of them have the handles to create separation like they could in the non-con. And since we don't have post scorers and refuse to run off ball actions, they have to create themselves.
    Yeah. That's more become more obvious than ever after these past few games. Simas seems better suited to be a 6th man catch and shoot guy off the bench while the PnR game with Jizzle/Aziz is clearly not effective against Big 12 comp. The offense needs a major revamp.

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  • London 'Cat
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    I'm not disappointed in the loss - I expected them to lose. On the road. Statically higher rated opponent. Maybe other reasons. However, I did not expect them to look so bad while losing. That is what is disappointing. They could not shoot, could not defend, still can't make free throws, and about half the shots taken by the 'Cats were 3s. They just aren't a good team, or they did not play to their potential last night. Skillings is scoring well at 18 PPG in conference games. Aziz has been solid for the most part. But the rest of the team seems overmatched by BigXII competition. Thomas looks good at times but tries to pass with one hand resulting in too many turnovers. And what about the shot doctor who was supposed to improve everyone's shooting form? I haven't seen any improvement in that area. At least against AZ they fought back to make it a game at the end. But they were never in the game against Baylor.

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  • leo from jersey
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    Just listened to CWM. yes having nice kids is good, but having, energetic, BB smart, tough kids is also good and win games. You can be tough and a good kid at the same time. I knew a guy that was the President of the local Christian athletic club (FCA) and he coached the special Olympics. When he crossed that black line he was a player. Never mean or disrespectful, but totally hard nose. You can be both and CWM that is a poor excuse.
    Last edited by leo from jersey; 01-08-2025, 08:33 AM.

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  • bearcatjd
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    Well as disappointed as I am with the results of the last 3 games, I won't insult the players. CWM needs to change the lineup. I believe the players really like Miller because I believe he is too soft. If someone is not doing well on defense & can't score, take them out. We can't do any worse than the last 3 games. Start the second string players & maybe it will wake up the starters. Something needs to change. Thank goodness
    they sell beer at the games & we have pretty cheerleaders & pretty dance team members.

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  • bearcatbret
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    The stats just stink all around. Bearcats Drop Road Contest at Baylor - University of Cincinnati Athletics

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  • leo from jersey
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    Originally posted by Bearcattony00 View Post
    I wish I was never born in Cincinnati. Everything about Cincinnati sucks.
    I met my wife in Cincy and I love the restaurants.

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  • leo from jersey
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    well I finished watching it. Skillings shot but bad d and many tos. That was the good news except for Aziz. This is team confusion. I never would have said that UC is weak and they were bullied underneath. CWM speaks of Bearcat tradition, but all he does is rattle off names. CWM has no clue to what UC BB has been. Let's see if CWM can turn it around.

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  • leeraymond
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    Another team that plays with two big body big men beat up on UC. Dillion Mitchell is NO MATCH for these types of big men. Villanova, K-State, now Baylor. It is a mistake to play Mitchell at the four when the other team has a big body four. Here is another problem; who else can play that position? Miller has too many guards and NOT enough big men that can play against big body big men. That is the one major problem when playing with a bunch of smaller big men or a bunch of wings. McKinley is missed more than I thought he would be. Even with McKinley healthy, three big men are not enough. UC probably needs to rotate 4 big men to really compete in the BIG XII. UC has two (Aziz and Page). Page has shown that he is NOT ready to play significant minutes.

    We are quickly learning that what worked for UC in the non-conference will NOT work in the BIG XII. Where are Reynolds and Lakhin when you need them? Instead, UC has Page as a backup. Aziz held his own tonight although he only had 4 rebounds. It is clear that Mitchell is NOT a four. He is a rebounding three.

    Where does UC go from here? What can UC do to address its problems? With Kansas on Saturday and the rest of the BIG XII coming to take UC's lunch money, what can Miller do to save the season? I suggest taking Simas and James out of the starting lineup because they are defensive liabilities, and they have lost their shooting strokes. Insert Thomas and Reed. Use Reed primarily for defense and rebounding. Thomas right now is playing better than James. Maybe bringing Simas and James off the bench may allow them to play against the other teams second stringers. That may lead to easier scoring for both of them. Right now, both of those guys are struggling on both sides of the ball.

    This is a crisis situation for Miller, whether he understands it or not. UC was beat by 20 POINTS last night. Think about that for a minute. I could be wrong, but I do not think that UC has been beaten that badly since Brannen coached the team. WHAT MILLER IS DOING NO LONGER WORKS. Just as the fans can see what is happening, the officials at the University of Cincinnati can see it too. Miller is well-liked. That helps a lot. However, losses have a way of making people dislike the coach. Maybe Miller needs to surround himself with better coaching. In football, the head coach will sometimes fire the assistant coaches to buy more time and to show the administration that he / she is working to solve the problem. Miller has to do something different and do it fast.

    When Cronin coached UC in the BIG EAST, he used to say that you do NOT want one loss to turn into three and four losses. UC and Miller are in the middle of a losing streak. It will get worse before it gets better. UC will probably lose the game on Saturday against Kansas if it takes the same approach that it has now. After that, Colorado is on the road then back home for two games against AZ State and Texas Tech. There is a STRONG possibility that the next time that UC plays at home after Saturday, it could be 0-5 in the BIG XII.

    Miller has to do something different. Will he?
    Last edited by leeraymond; 01-08-2025, 03:41 AM.

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  • sedz
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    Originally posted by GoBearcats31 View Post
    The numerous close losses stunk last year but the metrics were pretty solid. Getting blown out is one way to really hurt the computer numbers (fortunately didn’t get blown out by Arizona too). Good opportunity to right the ship versus Kansas but could be brutal to fall to 0-4 if they don’t. And they haven’t been good enough in 5/3. Season on the brink.
    We fell to #36 on Torvik, and the offense is now all the way outside the top 100 at #110. Our defense is still flirting with top 10. The metrics are almost identical to the 2013 squad that managed a 10 seed.

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  • sedz
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    We scored 0.8 points per possession, our worst offensive showing since the 2023 American Athletic Conference Tournament.

    Mitchell had the worst statistical impact with negative 7.6 net points. Zero points, zero assists, zero offensive rebounds, 4 turnovers. Just terrible. Jizzle wasn't far behind with negative 5.7 net points. 2 for 11 from the field, zero assists, 3 turnovers. Day Day has been playing much better of late, and he ended up with a positive BPM.

    Skillings was the one bright spot, putting up 7 net points. He scored a very efficient 17 from the field on only 11 shots thanks to a 5 for 7 performance from deep. Aziz and Simas were the only other players with a positive statistical impact.

    We went 1 for 14 from midrange in this game. I don't know what it's going to take for Wes to go away from that shot.

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  • GoBearcats31
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    The numerous close losses stunk last year but the metrics were pretty solid. Getting blown out is one way to really hurt the computer numbers (fortunately didn’t get blown out by Arizona too). Good opportunity to right the ship versus Kansas but could be brutal to fall to 0-4 if they don’t. And they haven’t been good enough in 5/3. Season on the brink.

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  • sedz
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    Originally posted by Bearcat9796 View Post
    wes says "real adjustments" wonder what that will mean, if anything
    I'm going to sneak into practice with a bullhorn and just yell "DILLON UP TOP" and "FLARE SCREEN" until they stop running PnR with Jizzle and Aziz. Just show me some variety!

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  • Bearcat9796
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    wes says "real adjustments" wonder what that will mean, if anything

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