Kansas State 3/5 7:00 ESPN+

[London 'Cat]

For the first time in my post UC student years, I have stopped watching UC basketball. I’ve turned down ticket offers (free) over 6x. Miller is totally ineffective and nothing will change, so I’ve decided to stop watching until he leaves. It’s not completely about winning & losing, this is low IQ basketball and just nonsense. I fully expect our two recruits to de-commit and Jizzle to hit the portal. Nothing about Miller’s UNCG experience said he was ready for major college basketball and we have all seen that play out here.

UC cannot afford to buy Miller out. That is an overreaction about the recruits. Wes will be UC’s coach next year but unlikely not at the start of the ‘25-26 season.

[longtimefan]

Shut it down. I would not accept a postseason invite (if that even happens). This team and coaching staff doesn't deserve it. One more year with this guy then need to clean house.

The Big 12 is obligated to send two teams to the new Las Vegas tournament, lose at OK State and they can forget that too.

[leeraymond]

For the first time in my post UC student years, I have stopped watching UC basketball. I’ve turned down ticket offers (free) over 6x. Miller is totally ineffective and nothing will change, so I’ve decided to stop watching until he leaves. It’s not completely about winning & losing, this is low IQ basketball and just nonsense. I fully expect our two recruits to de-commit and Jizzle to hit the portal. Nothing about Miller’s UNCG experience said he was ready for major college basketball and we have all seen that play out here.

Yeah. I am with you concerning Miller's previous UNCG experience.

[SKell82155]

Horrible Loss! This is a very SOFT TEAM that shows very little Heart!!!

Did not look at stats post game but while I was
watching did not witness an offensive rebound by
the Cats. Did witness poor ball handling, ball securement,
shot selection, etc.
Bandago is the most useless offensive big since
the Rock.

[sedz]

Back to old habits on offense. We took 21 shots from midrange and only got to the rim 18 times. Midrange is the only spot on the floor we outscored them. Not going to win if that's our focus. We scored 0.78 points per possession, our second lowest output of the entire season.

Skillings was our best player with 5.6 net points. He scored 7 points, all at the rim or FT line, and added 3 rebounds, 2 steals, an assist, and a block with zero turnovers and a game best 12.4 defensive BPM. If only we had that effort all season. Day Day was second best with 3.7 net points, scoring 12 from the field on 11 shots with 2 steals and an 8.5 defensive BPM. Simas also had a positive game thanks to a game high 5 assists and no turnovers.

Reed was our worst player with negative 5.1 net points, going just 1 for 9 from the field. Mitchell was just behind with negative 4.5 net points, going 1 for 4 from the field, 0 for 4 at the stripe and committing 3 turnovers. Jizzle, Aziz, and Betsey also had a negative impact on the scoring margin.

We won the turnover battle, the rebounding battle, the blocked shots battle. All the areas usually associated with toughness and effort we outperformed K State. We just have a terrible offensive philosophy.

[Oldtimer_UC_fan]

Even with the team playing like cr@p, Griffith doesn't play.

[D.A.H.]

Even with the team playing like cr@p, Griffith doesn't play.

i'd love to know what miller has against rayvon - i'm sure that there's a stat for it, but i'm "too stupid" to figure the mumbo jumbo horse crap out

[bearcatjd]

What a piss poor performance last night. This is the most upset I have been at a UC loss in 20 years. With less than a minute left our guards were dribbling the ball above the 3pt line & not making or wanting to make an attempt at scoring. THIS IS ALL BAD COACHING! HORRIBLE COACHING! BUY MILLER OUT & LET'S START OVER. HORRIBLE!

[John P]

So many people blame the coach, I think a lack of effort and enthusiasm from the players is more of the problem. Some of these guys just don't seem to have any heart.

[Bearcat1996]

CWM can draw up an inbound play. That's about it.

[leo from jersey]

This team has no offense. It is Jizzle dribbling around and shooting. Day Day dribbling around and shooting. There is absolutely no front line play, or any attempt to try to play from the paint, no real pick n roll game, no screening. There isn't a single player on the team who plays better, smarter, more effectively than they were on Day 1 of the season.

what he said

[London 'Cat]

So many people blame the coach, I think a lack of effort and enthusiasm from the players is more of the problem. Some of these guys just don't seem to have any heart.

I think the problems are lack of effort by players and poor coaching schemes. I don’t know which is more at fault. Even if the players were putting forth maximum effort the team will still be limited by the schemes coached.

[leo from jersey]

Back to old habits on offense. We took 21 shots from midrange and only got to the rim 18 times. Midrange is the only spot on the floor we outscored them. Not going to win if that's our focus. We scored 0.78 points per possession, our second lowest output of the entire season.

Skillings was our best player with 5.6 net points. He scored 7 points, all at the rim or FT line, and added 3 rebounds, 2 steals, an assist, and a block with zero turnovers and a game best 12.4 defensive BPM. If only we had that effort all season. Day Day was second best with 3.7 net points, scoring 12 from the field on 11 shots with 2 steals and an 8.5 defensive BPM. Simas also had a positive game thanks to a game high 5 assists and no turnovers.

Reed was our worst player with negative 5.1 net points, going just 1 for 9 from the field. Mitchell was just behind with negative 4.5 net points, going 1 for 4 from the field, 0 for 4 at the stripe and committing 3 turnovers. Jizzle, Aziz, and Betsey also had a negative impact on the scoring margin.

We won the turnover battle, the rebounding battle, the blocked shots battle. All the areas usually associated with toughness and effort we outperformed K State. We just have a terrible offensive philosophy.

well it may be considered toughness, but look at the opponent. DS played better. I still say he changed since CWM chewed him out on national tv. He has been a changed player since then. I did notice CWM screaming at JJ on the side. Maybe that will work too. Longtimefan or others who were at the game, did you hear what CWM was saying to JJ.

[leo from jersey]

Lots of complaining after the loss. The complaining should have started with the first BIG 12 game, but beating X and Dayton gave hope. Sadly, the play on the floor did not. Lack of desire, toughness and a floor leader is roster building for failure. UC admin made the right decisions to get into the BIG12 and now they are playing stupid and satisfied. Again, this off season is critical and I am not referring to incoming frosh, but the staff and the players who stay. I will also include the Athletic Department making sports success minded decisions. Throw in that monster factory as their motivational techniques has not developed bearcat desire in the team. That department is to get players strong mentally as well as physically. It has not been good since the second coming. ---Such an important off season

[loshow22]

How crucial was Josh Loeffler and his X's and O's? I am genuinely curious as to just how instrumental he was in our offensive strategy. This is basically the same team as last year and they look lost on the offensive end.