Sad State of Bearcat Basketball

[Bearcat1996]

Mick > Wes. The biggest red flag is the lack of player development under Wes. These guys do not improve at all.

[Gypo O'Leary]

Josh Reed 23.8 minutes per game, 10.1 points, 4.7 rebounds, 0.9 assists, FG% 46
Skillings, 11.5 points per game, 6.5 rebounds, 2.5 assists, FG% 45.8

Part of this is due to the inability of the point guards last year to properly distribute the ball.

[leeraymond372@gmail.com]

I don't think either of those are true. I do think with the Advent of NIL, coaching has gotten harder. You almost have a new team every year and I think getting a bunch of new guys who make a million or so a year to gel is hard. Wes didn't sign up for this. NIL wasn't a thing when he took the job.

Even out west Cronin took a season to figure out the NIL thing at UCLA. A lot of older successful coaches just plain retired because of NIL. It kind of like your boss coming in after you've been in a position for a while and telling you "we're rewriting all your job responsibilities going forward. Good luck"

Everybody else is going through the same thing. The better coaches have figured it out and are winning games. Winning games is what it is all about. I do not see what Miller is doing differently to win games. He basically has been doing the same thing every year, defensively, since he has been at UC.

I am basically looking at Miller as a basketball coach and the basketball product on the floor that is a result of his coaching. Wins and losses. That is what it boils down to.

[Rufus]

Leo labeled it hero ball and that is exactly what high school coaches AAU and select team bball camps are putting out these days. They can all shoot the three lights out when no one is around to defend, they can can set up according to their preference and shoot from their preferred spot on the floor, but bball as everyone on this forum knows is a team endeavor and takes five guys all doing the fundamentals to get players open in order to shoot. I'm sorry for being so redundant but Miller recruits players who can shoot when the circumstances are perfect but when things are altered slightly ( someone guarding them ) then the high percentage trey no longer comes as easy. I said in a earlier post that watching this team ( and many college bball ) today is boring because there is a scarcity of strategy being used. The silliest thing in the world to me is a player flashing three digits on his hand because he just made a three. And many times it comes after he just made his first after shooting and missing several before.

[bearcatbret]

He was mentioned as a possible candidate last round too. I love him offensively. His teams have always given up a ton of threes on defense though, and that scares me. One thing Wes Miller does really well is defend the three point line. It would be tough to take a complete 180 in that area with the three becoming more important each year.

However, Alexander would possibly be bringing in different types of players to UC. Maybe he could get both basketball players and athletes.

[sedz]

Sedz, what do you think of Casey Alexander @
Belmont ?

He was mentioned as a possible candidate last round too. I love him offensively. His teams have always given up a ton of threes on defense though, and that scares me. One thing Wes Miller does really well is defend the three point line. It would be tough to take a complete 180 in that area with the three becoming more important each year.

[leo from jersey]

And look how Page is finally being utIlized.... Top 40 in the Country in FG%.

Arrinten Page 15.7pts, 7.0reb, 62.7fg%

Maybe Northwestern has a legit shot Dr.

[BearKatz]

Other than our baseline players, FG% is pretty poor for this current Bearcat team.

These may not be the latest stats available, but we could sure use two now I would think:

Josh Reed 23.8 minutes per game, 10.1 points, 4.7 rebounds, 0.9 assists, FG% 46
Skillings, 11.5 points per game, 6.5 rebounds, 2.5 assists, FG% 45.8

And look how Page is finally being utIlized.... Top 40 in the Country in FG%.

Arrinten Page 15.7pts, 7.0reb, 62.7fg%

[leo from jersey]

Vince Lombardi, the Hall of Fame coach of the Green Bay Packers football team, was notorious for his emphasis on fundamentals. His teams won championships because they could block, tackle, and execute better than anyone else. It is said that once, frustrated by his team’s poor performance, he held up a football and said, “Gentlemen, this is a football!”

Perhaps CWM needs to see nothing in the game of BB is to be taken for granted. He must start at ground zero and start to teach and then demand the proper execution of the fundamentals. No offensive style will work until, you learn how to see the court, dribble, pass, rebound, screen and run the floor with sheer effort and enthusiasm. There are no quick fixes. The HS and AAU programs, for the most part, are not producing BB players.

I think that everyone should be able to dribble. Everyone should be able to pass. Otherwise, why are you out there?

Oscar

Not for when we hit 2 threes for every 10 shots and instead of getting back on Defense, they mug to the cameras.

[leo from jersey]

Other than our baseline players, FG% is pretty poor for this current Bearcat team.

These may not be the latest stats available, but we could sure use two now I would think:

Josh Reed 23.8 minutes per game, 10.1 points, 4.7 rebounds, 0.9 assists, FG% 46
Skillings, 11.5 points per game, 6.5 rebounds, 2.5 assists, FG% 45.8

Skillings couldn't handle the urban Cincy - too much like Philly -- Waco is a religious town - lots of distractions for sure, but quite different. - There were major problems on the team in the past, but the administration has really tightened up the sports program.

[JohnFrancis]

Other than our baseline players, FG% is pretty poor for this current Bearcat team.

These may not be the latest stats available, but we could sure use two now I would think:

Josh Reed 23.8 minutes per game, 10.1 points, 4.7 rebounds, 0.9 assists, FG% 46
Skillings, 11.5 points per game, 6.5 rebounds, 2.5 assists, FG% 45.8

[SKell82155]

I wanted Scott Nagy during our last coaching search. I can't believe that guy never got a high major shot. He might just not want it. Same with James Jones from Yale.

Ryan Pedon was in the mix last time and he's done an amazing job turning around Illinois St. Maybe Akron's John Groce. Depends on who's available when the time comes. Could be a high major assistant or an NBA guy too.

Sedz, what do you think of Casey Alexander @
Belmont ?

[sedz]

Sedz, do you have some coaches in mind who would fit the bill as well as play defense/rebound ?

I wanted Scott Nagy during our last coaching search. I can't believe that guy never got a high major shot. He might just not want it. Same with James Jones from Yale.

Ryan Pedon was in the mix last time and he's done an amazing job turning around Illinois St. Maybe Akron's John Groce. Depends on who's available when the time comes. Could be a high major assistant or an NBA guy too.

[longtimefan]

What really disgusted me about that Presbyterian game was the very end, even though we stunk the whole game. With UC leading, SK grabbed a long offensive rebound with under 10 seconds left. Instead of dribbling out the clock or getting fouled, he drove to the basket to try to score. His shot was blocked, with the Presbyterian guy racing down the court, everybody in the gym knew he’d hit that open 3 pointer as time expired. The game was lost not only through lack of effort, but a selfish boneheaded play at the very end. The Marshall game was nearly as bad, and I’ll never get the image of the Marshall players and their fans celebrating on the floor in our gym. Yet that was the same team who became the only team all year to beat Syracuse with Fab Melo available to play.

[SKell82155]

Looked at the advanced box score from the Presbyterian game. We took 26 midrange shots and only 10 free throws! 54 points. Some things never change here no matter who the coach is.

I would love to hire someone, anyone who understands modern basketball. We've got to stop acting like the style of play that brought us success 30 years ago is still going to work now.

Sedz, do you have some coaches in mind who would fit the bill as well as play defense/rebound ?