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  • shadyo
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    Originally posted by London 'Cat
    In men's basketball, for sure. In football, no difference at all.
    Depends on Boise and SDSU. Louisville is the biggest football loss of the last two years.

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  • London 'Cat
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    This leaves UC and USF as the only remaining BEast members when UC joined. And, the recent additions of the football schools only makes it at or slightly above C-USA football as it was when UC left. This is a sad day for UC athletics. Hopefully, the gods of conference realignment shine on UC and they are invited to the party.

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  • Bearcat Chris
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    Originally posted by jbreeds1
    You, my chicken little, are driving me absolutely INSANE!!! No one wants to hear your "I'm such a voice of reason" opinions. This university has a TON to offer. The dominos just havn't fallen yet. They will. Give it time. I just hope it's sooner than later.
    Look JBreeds, the "longtermers" on this board, of which you are not, know my history of being "ok" with UC at a par, commensurate w/ the support it gets from the community. Watching UC play ECU or USF, and going to the Liberty Bowl is NOT the end of the world.

    UC has sold out Nippert x1 in the last 3 years. We have to plead w/ the Enquirer and local electronic media for coverage..... We have a stadium that is cozy for 25K, but cramped when we have bigger crowds..... We can't keep our coaches..... AND YOU WONDER WHY THE ACC TOOK LOUISVILLE OVER US??

    We had a great run. Frankly, I enjoy watching FB of all types, even little kids, and if the big boys don't want us, then all the "kicking and screaming" from people on this board isn't going to matter a hill of beans.

    So there.

    B.C.

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  • shadyo
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    Not The Best Not The Worst

    If I remember correctly we had some pretty good MBB teams in the Conference USA days.
    Football will become a little more tricky. Against our new peer group we will have a decided advantage in facilities and more challenges to sell it to the local fans. OOC scheduling becomes more important. Coaching stability becomes a thing of the past and we should not want it. We should want coaches that want to get to the next level.
    Maybe the conference merry-go-round starts sooner rather than later!
    I think we will wind up in the ACC eventually, whatever is left of it.

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  • London 'Cat
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    Originally posted by ME80
    Big East 2.0 > CUSA 2.0
    In men's basketball, for sure. In football, no difference at all.

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  • coach
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    With all the pending movement you have to wonder how long the bball schools hold togtether. I do not know for sure, but i suspect the big east war chest$ which will be very fat after all these departures makes holding that together somewhat in their best interest.

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  • bearcatn8
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    The only really positive way to look at this is from a basketball perspective. If back in the Conference USA days anyone had asked us if we would be willing to sub out UL for UCONN, Nova, Temple, Georgetown, Seton Hall, Providence and St. Johns, who would have said no to that? Still a very strong basketball conference that a good coach can recruit to. (All of this puts a LOT of additional pressure on Mick, by the way, but that's another post).

    From a football perspective, it just sucks. There really is no positive spin that can be put on this. Sure, our competition for the one BCS spot just got lighter, but talk about all your eggs in one basket. It's BCS or the Beef O' Grady bowl against the 10th ranked team in the ACC (or something). Plus, we now are on the same level recruiting wise as the other schools that have been added to the Big East, such at Memphis, Tulane, etc. I hope we can maintain a higher level of play then those folks, but not sure I can say with confidence that we will.

    What makes this so hard is that, for a few glorious years, we had a spot at the big kids table. Now, that spot is gone and who knows when/if it will ever open up again.

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  • ccur5743
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    Originally posted by ME80
    Big East 2.0 > CUSA 2.0
    Definitely agree. I'm sure I'm overthinking this (as we all are). I guess my point is that the ACC would lose a ton of value if a few of those schools leave. Like I said though, I'd still absolutely take the ACC regardless.

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  • jbreeds1
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    Originally posted by Bearcat Chris
    The goal of the "big guys" is to have 64 top tier teams. UC, with 35K seat Nippert, which is rarely 100% filled, is most likely not going to be one of them.

    No matter what though, I will be there to root for UC!

    Our next discussion, probably in 3 days or so, will be who our new HC is going to be. Stability is something UC FB just can't ever find.

    B.C.
    You, my chicken little, are driving me absolutely INSANE!!! No one wants to hear your "I'm such a voice of reason" opinions. This university has a TON to offer. The dominos just havn't fallen yet. They will. Give it time. I just hope it's sooner than later.

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  • ME80
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    Originally posted by ccur5743
    While definitely better than the BE, joining the ACC after losing the aforementioned schools would seem like just Big East 2.0 wouldn't it? Losing a UNC/Duke/FSU/VT/Clemson. Aren't those the marquee programs of the ACC?
    Big East 2.0 > CUSA 2.0

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  • ccur5743
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    While definitely better than the BE, joining the ACC after losing the aforementioned schools would seem like just Big East 2.0 wouldn't it? Losing a UNC/Duke/FSU/VT/Clemson. Aren't those the marquee programs of the ACC?

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  • cpawstoney
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    ACC Votes to Add Louisville

    I don't know what's going to happen, but I have to agree with Bains, "This crud is far from over."
    For Cincinnati fans this shouldn’t be too shocking. In most scenarios involving just one ACC addition the Bearcats were third at best behind the Cardinals and Huskies. For now just UC, UConn, and USF remain of the “original” Big East teams from 2005 (the real original teams bolted it ages ago). The qualifying words in there are “for now”. Remember just two weeks ago Rutgers and Maryland were firmly implanted in the Big East and ACC respectively. Just days later they were gone.

    So while it may seem like the Bearcats were passed over yet again and the world is crumbling around us like a preteen that just got dumped by the ‘love of their life’ it’s extremely clear that conference realignment hasn’t yet run its course. I myself am keeping a close eye on just exactly how Maryland will pay the ACC’s $50 million exit fee. Like I mentioned if they can break the code look for Florida State and Clemson to start looking around themselves, potentially in the direction of the Big 12. Or the likes of Duke, North Carolina, and/or Virginia might start flirting with the Big Ten. Then if (and that’s another BIG ‘if’) those dominoes start to fall look for Cincinnati to join Louisville in the ACC sooner rather than later.

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  • RedRocker
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    Originally posted by CincyBearcat95
    My hope is our turn comes next year. The scenario I see/hope to see is either

    1. Big12 decides they need 2 more and with Louisville out of the way they take UC and BYU.

    Or

    2. Big12 takes FSU and Clemson or Big10 takes UNCLE and NCState and ACC comes calling.
    #2 scenario w/ B12 may happen sooner rather than later. Florida, Georgia, South Carolina and Bama are against those two joining the SEC.

    SEC isn't done yet either, NCSU and VT are in play there. NC, GT and UVA for B10. Where this merry-go-round ends is anybody's guess.

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  • CaptainProbasco
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    Originally posted by DBrentonBuck
    I don't think that is going to happen. Most people were reporting that UC was fourth on ACC list behind UL, UCONN and Navy.
    This is not true. According to ESPN:

    "The ACC also considered UConn and Cincinnati for membership. However, sources told ESPN the league only wanted Louisville because there is a sense among league presidents that the ACC can add more schools at a later date if the ACC lost any other schools."


    No mention of Navy anywhere in that article. I think it was just a name that some of the ACC folks threw out there as a lame attempt at a parting shot to Maryland.

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  • CaptainProbasco
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    Originally posted by Bearcat Chris
    The goal of the "big guys" is to have 64 top tier teams. UC, with 35K seat Nippert, which is rarely 100% filled, is most likely not going to be one of them.

    No matter what though, I will be there to root for UC!

    Our next discussion, probably in 3 days or so, will be who our new HC is going to be. Stability is something UC FB just can't ever find.

    B.C.
    Why is 64 a magic number? That's just a conspiracy theory that makes no practical sense.

    Why not 72? Or 48? If it is 64, why wouldn't they pick the best 64? Wouldn't 2 from the 8th biggest state and 4th biggest football market make more sense than 2 from Washington, Iowa, Oregon, Kansas, or Mississippi?

    In reality, everyone is trying to look out for their own best interest. It's a giant game theory puzzle with dozens of players.

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