More proof the Big 12 needs to add us!!

[coach]

Unfortunately i believe WV has very little sway in the big12. The big 12's demise might be the best thing. The remaining schools hook up with some AAC schools and Mwest and an improved competitive hybrid is born.

[swilsonsp4]

Strong recommendation on WVU board.

http://westvirginia.scout.com/forums...65730227?s=159

We just have to hope the B12 brass make the call. I don't think the ACC will. They're set, barring another raid of their talent.

[longtimefan]

Strong recommendation on WVU board.

http://westvirginia.scout.com/forums...65730227?s=159

[longtimefan]

I'm kind of inclined to think it might be better to just stay in the AAC and be a big fish in a small pond. The BIG12 seems like a mess to me. Horrible leadership in the BIG12 from what I've seen.

Nobody knows for sure what will happen next, but the Big 12 does not look like the best option going forward, but it may also be the best we can do. The problem with the Big 12 is that all the institutions are not of a like mind. Texas calls the shots, and nobody knows if they will stick around for the long term, and they could probably kill the conference by leaving and taking Oklahoma with them. Right now, despite the grant of rights, the institutions don't trust each other. It reminds me of all the talk that the BE was going to split or breakup, which is exactly what finally happened, and it seems that the Big 12 is in a similar spot to where the BE was six or eight years ago. Even with all that, if an invite comes we have to accept.

Of the current P5 lineup the ACC looks like the best fit (Actually the B1G would be best but forget that). It's a good bet that college athletics will look very different five years from now.

[Bearcats1232002]

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...r-playoff-snub

Bowlsby reiterated there is no partner(s) for Big 12 expansion that make sense at the moment. The most mentioned candidates – Cincinnati, Connecticut, Memphis, BYU, South Florida, Central Florida – do not bring the equity to the table that matches the annual Big 12 per-school payout from the media contracts -- $22 million.

"That's right," he said. "Even more than that -- it's academic, it's competitiveness, it's geography, it's scope of program …

"Just getting to 12 so you can have a playoff is among the worst reasons to expand."


I think it is not going to happen to be honest

[bearcatbret]

The article that I posted about BYU states that they could come in not costing the Big12 a penny in TV revenue because - 1 they would come in as football only so that the other sports would not have to compete on Sundays, 2 they have an ESPN contract already and would stay in place, 3 I forget.

[Lobot]

That's tough to evaluate. Bowlsby takes the heat, but that's his job. You have a lot of schools with big donors who i do not think are on the same page, and he basically serves at their behest. It's entirely possible they do not listen to anything he tries to accomplish. Not necessarily a group to air it's dirty laundry. However, absent some promise of acc down the road, you go to the p5 and worry later. No brainer.

Texas listens to no one but Texas. OU Pres wants to expand. Iowa St. AD doesn't, etc. Lots of greed and no foresight IMO.

[coach]

That's tough to evaluate. Bowlsby takes the heat, but that's his job. You have a lot of schools with big donors who i do not think are on the same page, and he basically serves at their behest. It's entirely possible they do not listen to anything he tries to accomplish. Not necessarily a group to air it's dirty laundry. However, absent some promise of acc down the road, you go to the p5 and worry later. No brainer.

[Bearcat_Fan]

I'm kind of inclined to think it might be better to just stay in the AAC and be a big fish in a small pond. The BIG12 seems like a mess to me. Horrible leadership in the BIG12 from what I've seen.

[coach]

Huggins has been around so long he could be referring to any of the speculated candidates so it's kind of another dead end even if it was relevant.

[longtimefan]

Audio from the Huggins radio show last night. Around 1:17 they ask questions and Huggins mentions the meeting.

http://wvu.leanplayer.com/

[Lobot]

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/college-sports/headlines/20141210-analyst-big-12-expansion-probably-the-worst-idea-conference-could-have-title-game-by-next-year.ece

Staples missed something and that's that Memphis can bring $50 million to the plate in FedEx money to sponsor a Big12 Championship game and that becomes a breakeven for the league. The league wants both slices of the pie and is being greedy.

[coach]

I kind of doubt a decision to leave your conference would entail someone asking for paperwork. They're not applying for a loan. Frank the tank had a tweet today that huggins told him of an emergency meeting a non p5 coach told him of about joining the big12 and it was speculated it was cronin/cincy. Go to his site and take it for what it's worth. He's generally pretty well regarded, even if he's a tank.

[CincyEngGrad02]

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/college-sports/headlines/20141210-analyst-big-12-expansion-probably-the-worst-idea-conference-could-have-title-game-by-next-year.ece

[98bearcat]

Well I heard rumors yesterday that 2 schools in the AAC had requested, in writing, the exact rules/requirements for withdrawing from the conference.
Today some people I know in Memphis are stating that UCF & Memphis are in the process of filing paperwork to withdraw from the AAC....

This may have as much validity as other more recent rumors but none of them talked about schools taking the actual steps.. Sure more should come out later today/week

**Update**: The information on Memphis & UCF is coming from an intern at Memphis:
"More from intern in Dr Rudd's office: Memphis and UCF will have to wait on invite, but preliminary interest from Big 12 member schools "yes"