More proof the Big 12 needs to add us!!

[Bearcats1232002]

I realize it will benefit us greatly by being in tHe big 12, but part of me wonders if we will be leaving one inept conference to go to a bigger, higher paying one. Seems like the B12 has made a lot of bad moves over the years primarily due to the Texas / OK giant ego issues. Wondering if we will be jumping to yet our 3rd or 4th sinking ship conference. Don't get me wrong - it's a move we have to take even if it only lasts a couple years.

I have always wondered if we will eventually end up with 4 power conferences. We had 6 and after the Big East was gone we are down to five. I could see the Big Ten or SEC trying to go after Texas, Oklahoma or both. If that happens does the Big 12 implode leaving 4 with us on the outside? If the Pac12, Big10 or SEC start picking the carcass of the Big12 then we could be in trouble.

[CincyBearcat95]

I want us into a power 5 conf and I have always said it will be the big 12 just based on their situation. All other leagues growing and they try to buck the trend. Usually doesn't work out well for the one that is not like the others. I realize it will benefit us greatly by being in tHe big 12, but part of me wonders if we will be leaving one inept conference to go to a bigger, higher paying one. Seems like the B12 has made a lot of bad moves over the years primarily due to the Texas / OK giant ego issues. Wondering if we will be jumping to yet our 3rd or 4th sinking ship conference. Don't get me wrong - it's a move we have to take even if it only lasts a couple years. Just feels like 2 steps forward, one step back. Will we ever get to a stable conference or is this the new norm?

[richard k.]

http://m.espn.go.com/ncf/story?storyId=11992137

baylor coach blasts commissioner over co-champions. It's about to get interesting.

The conference's own rules say that if 2 teams have the same conference won loss record there is a TIE BREAKER - the nod (championship) goes to the team that won the head to head game. Not sure where the commissioner is coming from - but as of this moment in time BAYLOR is THE Big 12 2014 football CHAMPION - per the conference's own RULES!

[jnewyouth]

http://m.espn.go.com/ncf/story?storyId=11992137

baylor coach blasts commissioner over co-champions. It's about to get interesting.

This makes me more excited about the real possibility of Big 12 expansion than any internet or radio rumor.

[Brian H.]

http://m.espn.go.com/ncf/story?storyId=11992137

baylor coach blasts commissioner over co-champions. It's about to get interesting.

[bearcatbret]

Earlier this week the Big 12 commissioner thought they had a good chance to get two teams in the playoff, after today they may get shut out. Interesting.....

I am curious why you say that. Both TCU and Baylor won. I know that Baylor has the head to head win and that was a great game earlier in the season. Is this because of the tosu blowout/shutout of Wisconsin?

I also have a question for the pollsters...... Our beloved Bearcats have won 7 straight, not many non-p5 teams have done that. Are we the highest ranked now and get to go to a big boy bowl game? lol.

http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_...true-conundrum One true conundrum.....

I do believe that the Big12 will be left out of the playoff. Baylor won the head to head which TCU should have and could have won but did not. tosu has more prestige, more influence, and more traveling fans so they will get the nod. I have to admit that OSU's win over Wisconsin yesterday was nothing less than spectacular.

[longtimefan]

Earlier this week the Big 12 commissioner thought they had a good chance to get two teams in the playoff, after today they may get shut out. Interesting.....

[TheDog]

Baylor and TCU bickering over "one true champion.". Championship game would have settled it just like every other conference.

[swilsonsp4]

Not sure what Oxford we are talking about...Oxford Ohio?

Oxford, MS, home of Ole Miss.

[Bearcat-in-Italy]

Why wouldn't the Big 12 go to 14 schools like the Big 10 (never mind the math), they could take UC, UCONN, Memphis, and UCF. UCONN brings a powerhouse basketball program. I get that these move are all about football, but if I'm a conference boss and I can get a national championship contendor in basketball I will swallow the pill and take the bad football team. Note that a few years ago, they tied for the BigEast championship in football. UCONN football could rise from the ashes again.

[Bearcat-in-Italy]

We went to Memphis for the Vanderbilt Bowl game and found it to be a pretty cool but small-ish city. Not sure what Oxford we are talking about...Oxford Ohio? No comparison Memphis hands down. Memphis and Cincinnati provide WVU with two teams in the same time zone. I might have thought that the Big 12 would want to grab UCF to get a Florida school.

[bearcatbret]

^I agree and that is what I meant. With UC's openness about their desire to join a P5, it would make sense for a school that has not been mentioned to use whatever relationship they have with UC to get an invite. Memphis may have FedEx but not enough clout to go alone. However, I have said it before, UC was Memphis prior to joining the Big East. Moving to that conference did wonders for our football program, our ability to recruit, and our rise out of purgatory to success. There is no coincidence that we have owned Miami (OH) since joining the Big East (well, other than they just plain suck). I believe that the American still has more to offer than Conference USA or the MAC but we will be back to purgatory before too long without an invite to a P5.

[cmm27]

You have the last part backwards. UC is bringing Memphis.

[bearcatbret]

^The attendance was down right embarrassing. All the weather forecast said that the rain would be gone by noon so that should not have been a factor. One can dress for a dry cold and that is what we did. With 14k tickets being given away to presumably Bearcat fans, I thought that there would be more in the seats. However, it seems that people take free stuff for granted and can easily discard it as well.

As for FedEx and Memphis, maybe they realize that the only hope they have is to bring UC along with them. Memphis may not have enough by themselves to get in. As mentioned previously, Memphis does get the Big12 into SEC territory while UC would open up the fertile Ohio market in tosu's backyard.

[coach]

It's not about opening up wallets exactly. It's more about purchasing advertising time. Tv contracts become negotiable when more $'s come to the table. A conference contract with added sponsor $'s means more money to the conferences. Follow the trail. However, i'm not certain our fan base really is behind us going to a bigger conference. The turnout today was certainly not indicative of that. We have a lot of "occasional" fans.