More proof the Big 12 needs to add us!!

[red_n_black_attack]

Tommy T on the Big 12 (need to expand, and them getting left out of playoff again), the plus 1, player payments, a new conference with playoff tie-ins. The interview was scant of details; however, he alluded to a lot.

http://www.espn1530.com/onair/lance-mcalister-7818/bearcats-tommy-tuberville-talks-big-12-13719503/

[coach]

I think you're right, Texas is more likely to try and play the de facto independent card like an nd rather than go the a conference like the B10. I think the reality is that the other schools in the b12 realize they are kind of on borrowed time with their tv money unless they do more to spread their footprint and overall national appeal. It obviously draws well in it's current 10 team format, but tv ratings are not where they could/should be. The playoff snub is just kind of another irritating burr in their saddle. It seems with the exception of texas, the other have a genuine interest in keeping it together for obvious regional/rivalry reasons. However, trying to add more teams in their areas are non starters given it will not change the tv situation. We'll see, but i wouldn't rule out a texas only split, and the remainder try to expand. It doesn't get a lot of play, but i do not think it's out of the question.

[blackattack]

Texas is now on the out looking in. They either need to embrace their existing conference or move to one of the other p5. If they move, it will become a p4 game.

Can't see Texas leaving the situation they have in the Big12 (i.e. control). The B1G (with OSU & Michigan), the PAC 12 (with USC & Oregon), the ACC (with FSU & Clemson), and the SEC would never allow Texas to come in and take control of all decisions the way they do in the Big12.
If you think about it, the Big 12 isn't really a "conference" in the truest sense of the word........its really the University of Texas and a collection of other schools that they tolerate for their own benefit.

[Bearcats1232002]

Texas is now on the out looking in. They either need to embrace their existing conference or move to one of the other p5. If they move, it will become a p4 game.

I don't know if that is a good thing or not. If it ever gets to a power 4 situation then I think we are permanently on the outside looking in. I don't believe we would get in a power 4 conference unless they threw an existing power 5 team out of its conference and invite us and I don't think that would happen.

[bearcatbret]

Texas is now on the out looking in. They either need to embrace their existing conference or move to one of the other p5. If they move, it will become a p4 game.

[Lobot]

I suspect the Big 12 will implode due to Texas/LHN and Bowlsby's refusal to acknowledge the obvious. If someone can get Texas out of it's own way, it would defenitely be a worthwhile conference to be in. I think the other realistic option is probably that Texas and OU go to the Big 10 and the rest of the conference adds 4 teams to stay alive as a conference. If that happens we're going to get a P4.

[blackattack]

Don't look for the Big 12 to expand as long as University of Texas is a member. It's all about them and always has been.

[CincyEngGrad02]

OU’s Boren “pretty much alone” in wanting expansion among Big 12 presidents sources told @ESPN
5:45 PM - 25 Jun 2015

A tweet from Brett McMurphy of ESPN.

[cpawstoney]

huber: Oklahoma President David Boren Wants a 12-team Big 12

The Oklahoman broke news today that may be interesting to Bearcat fans... Oklahoma president David Boren wants the 10-team Big 12 to add two teams. He wants a 12-team Big 12.

"I think it's something we should strive for while we have the time, stability, all of that to look and be choosy," Boren said. "(We) can be very selective about who we want to add. It would have to add value to the conference. I think we should."

http://www.downthedrive.com/2015/6/25/8842293/oklahoma-president-david-boren-wants-a-12-team-big-12

[Lobot]

Andy Staples quote is completely inaccurate. Cincinnati twitter burned him on it big time.

[blackattack]

"Unfortunately, Cincinnati’s football team is at best No. 4 in the city’s sports pecking order behind Ohio State, the Bengals and the Reds."

Even if this statement were true (and it's not), UC Football is in great position to grow their brand and popularity in this region, especially if they can land in a P5 Conference soon. In addition to their vastly improved facilities, UC Football could benefit locally from the Red's rapid decline and the Bengals........well....the Bengals are the Bengals.
Having said that, we need to win and beat some people we aren't supposed to beat and I think Nippert will be packed every Saturday.

[TheDog]

"Unfortunately, Cincinnati’s football team is at best No. 4 in the city’s sports pecking order behind Ohio State, the Bengals and the Reds."

Are we behind OSU in this city? I know there are some OSU fans in this city but most people I know hate OSU and want them to lose. They are not all Bearcat fans either that hate them.

I believe there was a poll or survey done not too long ago and UC was by far the most popular college sports team in the area. There wasn't even a close second. I'm not sure any sports pecking order (real or perceived) would have any influence on a P5 invite anyway.

[CroninCrazy]

"Unfortunately, Cincinnati’s football team is at best No. 4 in the city’s sports pecking order behind Ohio State, the Bengals and the Reds."

Are we behind OSU in this city? I know there are some OSU fans in this city but most people I know hate OSU and want them to lose. They are not all Bearcat fans either that hate them.

I didn't like that quote either. I think it is inaccurate.

[longtimefan]

Stewart Mandel @slmandel 2h2 hours ago
As others have noted, significant revelation today about the Big 12's TV deal. If everyone's share is guaranteed, expansion far more viable

Boren said that the “right partners” in expansion would not dilute conference revenue. Bowlsby confirmed that the Big 12’s TV contract calls for pro rata increases or decreases based on membership. But other revenue, like money from the NCAA Tournament and College Football Playoff, would have to be split 12 ways instead of 10. Bowlsby said that represented about 40 percent to 45 percent of current conference revenue.

Link Below

http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews.com/2015/06/bob-bowlsby-no-indication-that-a-majority-of-big-12-presidents-currently-favor-expansion.html/

[longtimefan]

"Unfortunately, Cincinnati’s football team is at best No. 4 in the city’s sports pecking order behind Ohio State, the Bengals and the Reds."

Are we behind OSU in this city? I know there are some OSU fans in this city but most people I know hate OSU and want them to lose. They are not all Bearcat fans either that hate them.

We are not even close to being behind O$U. Southwest Ohio is the only region of the state they do not dominate and they don't like that. The way the Reds are going we may soon be No. 2. That statement right there shows you how poorly researched that article was.