Expansion thread 2022

[Lobot]

I have to wonder if they would be willing to take less than a full revenue share like what they are advocating Pac10 members take because they are more worthy.



Hurt? More like stop any negotiations and hopefully see some Big12 applications.

I believe that’s the goal here. By being aggressive the Big 12 gets to preempt the PAC and throw numbers out where AZ, ASU and Utah And Colorado can see them.

[red_n_black_attack]

In other news, Last week Oregon’s lawyers met with the B1G. McMurphy is reporting this morning that Washington is about to the same. They aren’t high level meetings. No presidents, ADs etc.

I have to wonder if they would be willing to take less than a full revenue share like what they are advocating Pac10 members take because they are more worthy.

I have to believe that this is really going to hurt the PAC TV negotiations.

Hurt? More like stop any negotiations and hopefully see some Big12 applications.

[bearcatbret]

In other news, Last week Oregon’s lawyers met with the B1G. McMurphy is reporting this morning that Washington is about to the same. They aren’t high level meetings. No presidents, ADs etc.

I have to believe that this is really going to hurt the PAC TV negotiations.

[Lobot]

In other news, Last week Oregon’s lawyers met with the B1G. McMurphy is reporting this morning that Washington is about to the same. They aren’t high level meetings. No presidents, ADs etc.

[bearcatbret]

About the Big 12 opening TV negotiations and what it means to the PAC. This link has several summaries of articles with the links to those. Pac-12 realignment, expansion live updates: Big 12 TV deal report bad news for conference (msn.com)

[bearcatbret]

How about the B1G 10 taking 10 teams? The 10 programs that should join the Big Ten per FiveThirtyEight (msn.com)

[red_n_black_attack]

It isn't too much of a stretch as far as consipiracy theories go. I doubt Pitt and Loserville vote to dissolve ACC so that Clemson, FSU, Miami, N Caroline can go to SEC and Big Ten even though they could get 15-25 million more per year in the Big 12 (where they belong).I give this a 10-15% chance of happening within a year or two.

No ESPN will not like the loss of so much content, but they will like adding top tier programs to an SEC contract for less than they pay the ACC in total.

[bearcatbret]

That would be ESPN *ESCAPE PLAN* ACC teams looking for way OUT || Conference Realignment - Bing video From about the 2:30 to 5:00 minute mark.

[Chewbacca2099]

ESPN would hate for that to happen. They have a good product for cheap with the ACC. They want to keep them together as long as possible

[Lobot]

Does said talking head work for ESPN?

[bearcatbret]

Some talking head is suggesting that the ACC may fold. He states that it would take 8 schools to vote to dissolve the GOR. His scenario is that FSU, Clemson, Miami, North Carolina vote and move to the SEC AND either 2 teams (Virginia and Virginia Tech) go to the B1G 10 and then 2 or 4 teams (depending on if the B1G 10 takes any schools) go to the Big 12. It is possible that the ACC GOR folds.

[True Bearcat]

I am beginning to think the end game for the Big Ten is 24. Breaks into 4 divisions of 6. The teams will play their division games, then one of the other three to get to 11 games. Game 12 will be a divisional round between the division champions, game 13 for the two winners. Then playoffs. The teams who do not win their division will play the team in an opposite division who finished in the same place as them.

[red_n_black_attack]

They could join what might be Washington St. and Oregon St. left of the Pac. However, I see in the long run that the Big 2 conferences dropping their dead weight and adding additional teams. Not sure Pitt or Cuse would fit the category of being added though. So as a guessing game, who do the B1G 10 and SEC drop and who do they add to make two 20 team conferences? I doubt if UC is included in the top 40 team leagues. The most interesting thing about all of this is that the press talks about how far the ACC, Big 12, and Pac are behind the B1G and SEC in revenue but they never mention that the rest of the conferences make nothing.

I simply do not see them dropping the "dead weight". Those schools have allegiances that go back several decades or a century, plus you can only have multiple top tier teams if someone is losing. Parity in college athletics is not something the big boys want. The "dead weight" are like their younger siblings and the big boys have a protective wing over them.

[bearcatbret]

It would be a complete shame to see Pitt and Syracuse in particular wandering around homeless after what they pulled on the Big East.

They could join what might be Washington St. and Oregon St. left of the Pac. However, I see in the long run that the Big 2 conferences dropping their dead weight and adding additional teams. Not sure Pitt or Cuse would fit the category of being added though. So as a guessing game, who do the B1G 10 and SEC drop and who do they add to make two 20 team conferences? I doubt if UC is included in the top 40 team leagues. The most interesting thing about all of this is that the press talks about how far the ACC, Big 12, and Pac are behind the B1G and SEC in revenue but they never mention that the rest of the conferences make nothing.

[Lobot]

It would be a complete shame to see Pitt and Syracuse in particular wandering around homeless after what they pulled on the Big East.