UC Coaching Search Official Thread

[#41]

I was perusing a Houston Cougars board just for giggles, and ended up just getting a little depressed.

It was like going back in time a few weeks around here. Everyone talking about how great a job UH is and how "The only thing that UC has over UH is that they're from an AQ conference." The coach won't leave because Houston is upgrading their facilities and that, after the next round of conference shuffling, Houston will end up in an AQ conference, etc. No way that Sumlin leaves, his extension is "99% done."

This system sucks.

[colocat]

Agreed. The timing is the worst of all. It's all based on recruiting. Maybe signing day needs to be in the middle of November.....

I was perusing a Houston Cougars board just for giggles, and ended up just getting a little depressed.

It was like going back in time a few weeks around here. Everyone talking about how great a job UH is and how "The only thing that UC has over UH is that they're from an AQ conference." The coach won't leave because Houston is upgrading their facilities and that, after the next round of conference shuffling, Houston will end up in an AQ conference, etc. No way that Sumlin leaves, his extension is "99% done."

This system sucks.

[bobestes]

I kind of like Al Golden in that he seems to posess a little bit of that "coach 'em up" thing that BK had going pretty well.

I think that whoever we get has got to have a demonstrated ability to take 2-3 star talent and coach em up into 4 star talent. Which seems obvious, I guess.

[norwoodbearcat]

I was perusing a Houston Cougars board just for giggles, and ended up just getting a little depressed.

It was like going back in time a few weeks around here. Everyone talking about how great a job UH is and how "The only thing that UC has over UH is that they're from an AQ conference." The coach won't leave because Houston is upgrading their facilities and that, after the next round of conference shuffling, Houston will end up in an AQ conference, etc. No way that Sumlin leaves, his extension is "99% done."

This system sucks.

I think its funny to read their messages because they think we have a 34k average because we cant fill a stadium and have no knowledge of our past so they really dont understand our situation at all. They are as bad as many on here though, they think Houston is where it is. Does sound alot like the Kelly is staying posters.

[daap_bearcat97]

I saw in the news this morning that MT's short list included: (channel 9)
Keving Sumlin
Skip Holtz
Kevin Wilson
Kerry Coombs
Jeff Quinn

Can anyone tell me why we are so opposed to inquiring with some bigger name coaches or some higher tier coordinators? Myself and others have asked about:

-Mike Stoops
-Chris Peterson
-Dave Christensen
-Bud Foster
and YES even Steve Spurrier?

I would have to imagine that MT had a package for BK that would have made him the highest paid coach in the BEast, or very close to it. If that was the case, he would have been around the 2.2 mil+ mark. So why not take a package similar to that and go after a coach like Spurrier, Peterson or Stoops? Look, I know UC doesn't exactly have all that some of the bigger football schools have, but I feel Gregory Williams and MT will get us there. The Jefferson Ave. sports complex is coming, Nippert renovations, a loaded team next season, a hot bed for recruiting, a BCS affiliation and an easier path to the NC game over most other "football power" conferences, not too mention us playing in the Sugar bowl. This would have to be a great situation for someone to walk into. Yes, I agree we don't have the donor base, the luxury boxes or some other important elements, but they will come and someone will be a key part in making that happen.

Stoops - from Ohio
Spurrier - I would think would love to leave the SEC and jump into a great "rising" program, nor maybe not?
Chris Peterson - I agree won't leave Boise, but it is worth the phone call. As he would be my #1

I believe that MT will do everything right and I trust him, but I just hope that we aren't setting our sites too low, when maybe, just maybe there is a chance at a great coach. Not saying the Sumlin, Quinn, Jones or a few others wouldn't be great, but I hope we at least pose the idea to others. Funny thing I didn't see Golden's name on the list from channel 9, I thought UC was contacting him as well?

Go Cats!

ps -someone on another board had suggested the Sumlin for the HC and Snyder from Marshall as the D-Cord? Interesting combo? IDK. Thoughts?

[bobestes]

Can anyone tell me why we are so opposed to inquiring with some bigger name coaches or some higher tier coordinators? Myself and others have asked about:

Personally, I don't think big name coaches are very good at coaching up unheralded recruits, which is probably the #1 reason why we're in the Sugar Bowl, much more so than offensive systems or anything like that.

As much as I hate to say it, we almost need that upwardly mobile coach that wants the michigan/OSU/Penn State job and is going to have to get something out of 3 star recruits in order to do it. They win, we win, everyone wins. That's just where we're at right now.

[#41]

Spurrier isn't leaving the south. Cincinnati weather would cut into his golf time drastically.

[Kindog202]

I think its funny to read their messages because they think we have a 34k average because we cant fill a stadium and have no knowledge of our past so they really dont understand our situation at all. They are as bad as many on here though, they think Houston is where it is. Does sound alot like the Kelly is staying posters.

I agree and it makes me look at our situation in a different light. Just goes to show that we are not the only ones in the same situation. Although I can say with almost 100% certainty that there was no back-handed channels and other shenanigans going on w/Sumlin. We were and MT was 100% committed to the previous coach and were not looking elsewhere until he bolted.

['nati streets]

Since Sumlin has his links:

Mike Stoops- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Stoops
(not all that impressive but in a BCS conference....)

Skip Holtz- http://www.ecupirates.com/sports/m-f...tz_skip00.html
think of all the added publicity, Lou would be throwing out our name like it was candy at a parade (it can't hurt)
and I don't mind if our coaches perform so well that ND takes them... as long as the FAIL miserably at ND and it continues to free-fall to mediocrity

[bobestes]

Since Sumlin has his links:

Mike Stoops- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Stoops
(not all that impressive but in a BCS conference....)

Skip Holtz- http://www.ecupirates.com/sports/m-f...tz_skip00.html
think of all the added publicity, Lou would be throwing out our name like it was candy at a parade (it can't hurt)
and I don't mind if our coaches perform so well that ND takes them... as long as the FAIL miserably at ND and it continues to free-fall to mediocrity

this is sort of off topic:

But I'm really dreading all the doofus ND fans that live in this city, even though they've never attended a day of classes there, coming out of the woodwork when BK inevitably starts winning. As if I needed another reason to avoid fish fries and church festivals...

[udonkey]

Skip Holtz- http://www.ecupirates.com/sports/m-f...tz_skip00.html
think of all the added publicity, Lou would be throwing out our name like it was candy at a parade (it can't hurt)
and I don't mind if our coaches perform so well that ND takes them... as long as the FAIL miserably at ND and it continues to free-fall to mediocrity

I don't know if I could take hearing "Thinthinnati Bearcaths" every week out of Lou's mouth...reason enough, in my book, to not hire Skip

[mjb1979]

I don't know if I could take hearing "Thinthinnati Bearcaths" every week out of Lou's mouth...reason enough, in my book, to not hire Skip

Actually I think he would say "Thinthinnat-uh"

[jplog]

No Butch Jones?

[daap_bearcat97]

Actually I think he would say "Thinthinnat-uh"

That is funny! So True...he would make my ears bleed!

[daap_bearcat97]

Spurrier isn't leaving the south. Cincinnati weather would cut into his golf time drastically.

Great point...I never thought of that...LOL!