2024 Big XII Tournament

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  • longtimefan
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    • Mar 2009
    • 5439

    #301
    Q1 win, but we’ll probably not get credit for it, even though we played healthy Kansas close in their gym earlier in the season.

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    • Gmann
      Distinguished Member
      • Feb 2019
      • 798

      #302
      Yeah. This win will be deeply discounted by the so called experts.

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      • bearcatbret
        Veteran
        • May 2008
        • 8378

        #303
        Originally posted by Gmann
        Yeah. This win will be deeply discounted by the so called experts.
        Like I said earlier, we are missing two starters from the beginning of the season. Nobody in the news wants to talk about that.

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        • Oldtimer_UC_fan
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          • Apr 2007
          • 1994

          #304
          Originally posted by bearcatbret

          Like I said earlier, we are missing two starters from the beginning of the season. Nobody in the news wants to talk about that.
          But no comparison with the ones not playing for Kansas. Let's be honest.

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          • longtimefan
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            • Mar 2009
            • 5439

            #305
            Up to 33 in Kenpom

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            • longtimefan
              Veteran
              • Mar 2009
              • 5439

              #306
              Originally posted by Oldtimer_UC_fan

              But no comparison with the ones not playing for Kansas. Let's be honest.
              Dickinson 10 pts in the first game.

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              • bearcatbret
                Veteran
                • May 2008
                • 8378

                #307
                Kansas basketball’s Big 12 tournament run ends with quick exit, loss against Cincinnati - Yahoo Sports

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                • bearcatbret
                  Veteran
                  • May 2008
                  • 8378

                  #308
                  Originally posted by Oldtimer_UC_fan

                  But no comparison with the ones not playing for Kansas. Let's be honest.
                  Maybe so but the importance to the team may have been greater for UC. CJ was definitely the floor leader of the team and the calming presence that has been missed. Vic had a good game against Kansas the first time around and was not there this time. These two may not have been the "great" players that Kansas lost but do not discount the loss to UC. Maybe UC wins one or two more games with those two and would have had a first-round bye.

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                  • Oldtimer_UC_fan
                    Veteran
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 1994

                    #309
                    Originally posted by bearcatbret

                    Maybe so but the importance to the team may have been greater for UC. CJ was definitely the floor leader of the team and the calming presence that has been missed. Vic had a good game against Kansas the first time around and was not there this time. These two may not have been the "great" players that Kansas lost but do not discount the loss to UC. Maybe UC wins one or two more games with those two and would have had a first-round bye.
                    CJ has been a non factor all season. I am not discounting them. But, those Kansas players are tbe 2 leading scorers in the Big 12.

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                    • sedz
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                      • Jan 2024
                      • 1270

                      #310
                      Originally posted by sedz
                      This is a four guard lineup. Furphy is tall, but he is a guard (like DerMarr). So Adams plays the 5 in this lineup, but he does not have the size, rim protection, or rebounding ability of a typical 5. Small ball centers can pose matchup problems, but since Adams doesn't step out to shoot the three, it won't be a liability for us to have one of our bigs out there on him. I'd be surprised if they went with this lineup most of the game. I have a feeling we'll see at least 20 minutes of 6'10" 5th year transfer Parker Braun, who is a decent rim protector and can finish around the basket. The problem for Kansas is that Braun and Adams are their only frontcourt players. They have no depth with Dickinson out unless they give the walk on some minutes.

                      We cannot turn the ball over in this game. It's imperative to get shots up on the rim and give Aziz/Jamille a chance to grab the rebound. They should have a huge advantage on the glass.
                      So Kansas went with the four guard lineup and Adams at the 5 for almost the entire game. Braun only played 3 minutes. They just conceded the paint. It's almost impossible to win a basketball game like that unless you're the 2022 Golden State Warriors. Very strange.

                      We held Kansas to 0.73 points per possession. We dominated the defensive glass, as the Jayhawks rebounded less than 20% of their misses. They put up 25 midrange shots and only made 32% of them.

                      Offensively we were just ok, putting up 1.01 points per possession. We chucked up 26 midrange shots and only made 23% of them. That's horrible shot selection, especially given the circumstances. We should have been getting Jamille the ball in the post to start every possession. Kansas had no chance to guard him straight up with their personnel. But we made up for it by converting 35% from three and rebounding 35% of our misses while turning it over only 10 times.

                      Player of the game was Newman with 5.9 net points, posting a double double with 12 points and 10 rebounds. Skillings was just behind with 5.4 net points, scoring 25 to go with 7 rebounds. Aziz was the best defensive player, posting a 9.4 defensive box plus minus while grabbing 37% of available defensive rebounds. Simas and Day Day, the heroes of Tuesday night, were the only players with negative net points. They went a combined 0 of 8 from midrange with 5 turnovers.

                      Quite a bizarre pair of games. We're still alive.

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                      • WestCoastAlum
                        Junior Member
                        • Jan 2024
                        • 16

                        #311
                        Originally posted by sedz
                        So Kansas went with the four guard lineup and Adams at the 5 for almost the entire game. Braun only played 3 minutes. They just conceded the paint. It's almost impossible to win a basketball game like that unless you're the 2022 Golden State Warriors. Very strange.

                        We held Kansas to 0.73 points per possession. We dominated the defensive glass, as the Jayhawks rebounded less than 20% of their misses. They put up 25 midrange shots and only made 32% of them.

                        Offensively we were just ok, putting up 1.01 points per possession. We chucked up 26 midrange shots and only made 23% of them. That's horrible shot selection, especially given the circumstances. We should have been getting Jamille the ball in the post to start every possession. Kansas had no chance to guard him straight up with their personnel. But we made up for it by converting 35% from three and rebounding 35% of our misses while turning it over only 10 times.

                        Player of the game was Newman with 5.9 net points, posting a double double with 12 points and 10 rebounds. Skillings was just behind with 5.4 net points, scoring 25 to go with 7 rebounds. Aziz was the best defensive player, posting a 9.4 defensive box plus minus while grabbing 37% of available defensive rebounds. Simas and Day Day, the heroes of Tuesday night, were the only players with negative net points. They went a combined 0 of 8 from midrange with 5 turnovers.

                        Quite a bizarre pair of games. We're still alive.
                        Nice synopsis Sedz. Our 2 heroes from yesterday went back to their normal shooting selves. The announcers got it right when they talked about Lukosius' feet never leaving the floor. He may be good at 3's and FTs, but he's not a dribble drive player nor a does he have good handles and his defense in suspect. Notice how he rarely accrues fouls (sign of someone not guarding too close. 33 fouls in 31 games). He does have good court vision as he always seems to garner some assists. At least Thomas drives, or attempts to drive the paint Kudos to whoever shut down Furphy!! Now for Baylor..............a whole different animal. Not to mention their first 2 round byes and the fact that our guys are probably gassed.

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                        • bearcatjd
                          Distinguished Member
                          • May 2015
                          • 894

                          #312
                          We beat Kansas by 20 freaking points. Yes 20 freaking points. Their fan base looked like a commercial for prozak Solid win all around.
                          Proud to be a Bearcat. Let's keep it going!
                          Last edited by bearcatjd; 03-14-2024, 06:04 AM.

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                          • Carthage World
                            Distinguished Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 961

                            #313
                            Dan certainly had his boneheaded moments last night but his efforts - especially late in the 2nd half - were the difference maker.

                            We jumped 9 spots to #34 in the NET overnight. Let's keep the ball rolling and see what happens.

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                            • GoBearcats31
                              Super Moderator
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 11744

                              #314
                              34 in the NET as mentioned, 33 on Kenpom.

                              Work still to do and there are obvious flaws in the resume, but computer numbers are starting to look good. Let’s not become the team that everyone says had the highest XYZ metric to miss the dance …

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                              • fmirzamd
                                Member
                                • Nov 2019
                                • 150

                                #315
                                Originally posted by Gmann
                                Yeah. This win will be deeply discounted by the so called experts.
                                It should not be they are still #16 in ranking by the experts.

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