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  • leo from jersey
    Veteran
    • Apr 2007
    • 6168

    #151
    Originally posted by red_n_black_attack

    UC shouldn't pay. We generate opportunities to maximize NIL deals for players, but this isn't a pay-4-play system, yet.
    perhaps in theory only but not in actual practice. If you want to compete, there are unwritten rules. These guys coming in have spent literally hundreds of hours working on basketball skills and much less on academic.

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    • leeraymond
      Distinguished Member
      • Dec 2020
      • 719

      #152
      Originally posted by sedz
      AJ Storr apparently turned down $750,000 from Kansas, looking for more. He was a high level recruit but has been very underwhelming in his first two years (not one of Wisconsin's top 4 players by box plus minus and a negative defensive impact). The money flying around is insane.
      I agree with you. The money that is flying around is not only insane, it is dangerous for college sports. One of the reasons Sabin (football) got out of college sports.

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      • leeraymond
        Distinguished Member
        • Dec 2020
        • 719

        #153
        Originally posted by Bearcat93
        Maybe this NIL deal explains some of the incredulous substitutions across the season?
        Yeah, I was thinking the same thing regarding my man Ody Oguama and his sudden reduction in playing time. If that is the case, it all makes sense now.

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        • leeraymond
          Distinguished Member
          • Dec 2020
          • 719

          #154
          Originally posted by sedz
          I just did that and there is no noticeable, significant change outside of Josh Reed at that time (minus CJ's brief return). Dan's jump in minutes came Jan 13 at Baylor in the third game of conference play. Outside of one terrible game against Oklahoma a week later, he played 28+ minutes every game the rest of the season. Simas had been consistently playing 30+ since Dec 19. Aziz played 20-30 all year long. Jamille bounced around from 10 to 20 with no real pattern and actually had a bump up to 20 minutes in that Iowa St game before dropping to 14 again. Jizzle's minutes increased at the very end of the season but bounced around in conference play, and were actually lower in the couple games after Iowa St, some of those taken by CJ. Day Day saw a boost from the upper 20s to lower 30s beginning March 2 against K State. Newman was consistently around 30 all year.

          Reed played only 1 minute against Iowa St and the preceding Houston game (and 10 or less in the previous 4) before jumping up to 14 and 13 after. If a donor was looking for playing time after the Iowa St game, Reed is the only guy who got it, but that boost was gone by the conference tournament. The PGs started playing together more beginning February 24, but that coincides with the only three games Vik played significant minutes after Iowa St.

          I do love a good conspiracy though.
          What about Ody Oguama and his playing time?

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          • leo from jersey
            Veteran
            • Apr 2007
            • 6168

            #155
            Originally posted by leeraymond

            What about Ody Oguama and his playing time?
            This is what about ODY. He showed maturity and represented his school and team as a mature and educated UC man.

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            • sedz
              Veteran
              • Jan 2024
              • 1270

              #156
              Originally posted by leeraymond

              What about Ody Oguama and his playing time?
              Ody barely played after Aziz and Jamille became eligible. If a donor wanted Ody to get more minutes, it definitely didn't work.

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              • red_n_black_attack
                Veteran
                • Apr 2007
                • 4127

                #157
                Originally posted by leo from jersey

                perhaps in theory only but not in actual practice. If you want to compete, there are unwritten rules. These guys coming in have spent literally hundreds of hours working on basketball skills and much less on academic.
                Not in theory. The NCAA will crack down on pay-4-play and there are written rules/regulations. I recognize everybody is doing it right now, but that won't stop NCAA infractions/penalties since our name isn't Kansas or UNC.
                Red and Black are more of an Attitude than merely a color combination.

                Intimidate! Dominate! Celebrate!

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                • leeraymond
                  Distinguished Member
                  • Dec 2020
                  • 719

                  #158
                  Originally posted by sedz
                  Ody barely played after Aziz and Jamille became eligible. If a donor wanted Ody to get more minutes, it definitely didn't work.
                  No. What I am asking, or trying to understand; was Oguma's playing time also sacrificed because some donor wanted more playing time for somebody else? I guess there is no way for anyone to know that, huh?

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                  • bearcatbret
                    Veteran
                    • May 2008
                    • 8361

                    #159
                    Originally posted by red_n_black_attack

                    Not in theory. The NCAA will crack down on pay-4-play and there are written rules/regulations. I recognize everybody is doing it right now, but that won't stop NCAA infractions/penalties since our name isn't Kansas or UNC.
                    Or UConn. Do you remember around 10 years ago the scandal where the players were stealing computers? That may have been Calhoun's last season?

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                    • GoBearcats31
                      Super Moderator
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 11734

                      #160
                      Originally posted by bearcatbret

                      Or UConn. Do you remember around 10 years ago the scandal where the players were stealing computers? That may have been Calhoun's last season?
                      Believe it or not, that was almost 20 years ago -- 2005

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                      • leo from jersey
                        Veteran
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 6168

                        #161
                        Originally posted by leeraymond

                        No. What I am asking, or trying to understand; was Oguma's playing time also sacrificed because some donor wanted more playing time for somebody else? I guess there is no way for anyone to know that, huh?
                        well someone gave that scenario -- perhaps they should comment more.

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                        • Lobot
                          Administrator
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 28162

                          #162
                          Originally posted by leeraymond

                          No. What I am asking, or trying to understand; was Oguma's playing time also sacrificed because some donor wanted more playing time for somebody else? I guess there is no way for anyone to know that, huh?
                          If you were referring to me, I think Ody was mostly collateral damage from the transfer portal additions. I loved Ody but he's a 6'6 4/5. We brought in 7'2 and 6'11 at the 5 . I think Ody would have been out there more if he had more offense in his arsenal. The defense and effort on the court was always there. Bearcat for sure.
                          Brent Wyrick
                          92 Final Four Front Row
                          @LobotC2DFW

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                          • Bearcat93
                            Distinguished Member
                            • Mar 2020
                            • 644

                            #163
                            Ody’s 6’9, 230lb.I think his offensive abilities could have improved had he played more. His defense was really solid.

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                            • bearcatbret
                              Veteran
                              • May 2008
                              • 8361

                              #164
                              Originally posted by GoBearcats31

                              Believe it or not, that was almost 20 years ago -- 2005
                              Wow, it seems like I lose track of time.

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                              • red_n_black_attack
                                Veteran
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 4127

                                #165
                                No new news here is good right? I'd think players like Reed or Sage have made decisions, or do we need to await an announcement they're coming back like the one Simas posted?
                                Red and Black are more of an Attitude than merely a color combination.

                                Intimidate! Dominate! Celebrate!

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