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Originally posted by Lobot View Post
I disagree with this. Things were said to CWM that influenced Vik's time on the court. It's not all on Vik and he probably responded about the way most college students would if they suddently sat the bench a whole game instead of starting. Vik had his issues but it's definitely not all on him.Last edited by leo from jersey; 04-03-2024, 11:51 AM.
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Originally posted by Lobot View Post
On that note, when is spring graduation this year?
Spring 2024 Commencement
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Originally posted by leo from jersey View Post
That is fine, but he left a sour taste by the way he left. I am talking about the last half of the season. He let his school, his team and the fans down. I firmly believe he would have scored at will against that guy from ISU. He had been listening to others in his ear. MAW? Others? who knows. He just didn't seem to be listening to CWM and there was no leader in the locker room to straighten him out. Hopefully DS or JJ becomes that voice.
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Originally posted by Bearcat93 View Post
Can you give an example of what you mean by other players NIL impacting Vik’s pt? Not names but just conceptually how this happened?
I'm not going to pretend that's the sole reason why Vik didn't play down the stretch because there were other issues. Leo is right in that I wasn't in the room for whatever the conversation was between Wes and Vik. However, There are people throwing their weight around that should probably just let our coach, coach instead of using money for influence.
One additional thought I had based on Chad comments about Viktor seeking NIL. It makes no sense unless you are either not considered a foreign player anymore (he did graduate), or you are going to challenge the "No NIL for foreign players rule" in court. (He'd probably win).Last edited by Lobot; 04-03-2024, 12:08 PM.Brent Wyrick
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Originally posted by Lobot View Post
Let's say for example, that Vik is the starter and suddenly an important donor says to someone in the Athletic Dept that Wes needs to be playing his best players and not just he one's he's loyal to. This comes after a press conference where Wes specifically defended Vik's loyalty to the program after he was sick and had a really bad game (Iowa St.?) That info from the donor trickles down through the dept. to Wes. The next game Vik gets 1 minute on the floor in garbage time and doesn't play the next game. Based on information I got, the above scenario happened. The thought between myself and several people I talked to was this was probably related to NIL payments to others who were then played over Viktor.
I'm not going to pretend that's the sole reason why Vik didn't play down the stretch because there were other issues. Leo is right in that I wasn't in the room for whatever the conversation was between Wes and Vik. However, There are people throwing their weight around that should probably just let our coach, coach instead of using money for influence.
One additional thought I had was based on Chad comments about Viktor seeking NIL. It makes no sense unless you are either not considered a foreign player anymore (he did graduate), or you're are going to challenge the "No NIL for foreign players rule" in court. (He'd probably win).
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so, i'm sorry. i've been skimming this thread, and i've got enough meds in me with whatever crud i have, and i'm not sure if i've read it right. is anyone saying that vik was "abused". it sounds like a business disagreement, but i didn't think, even in this day and age, that just saying no to a player was abusive. was there more going on?
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Originally posted by leo from jersey View Post
As I said - the abuse should be reported to Cunningham and I suspect he knew. Regardless of that, I personally don't go by what others do to me. I do my best as unto the Lord and not to man. I realize that many don't have that philosophy, but a "Bearcat for life" should. All empty words said when things were good. I would have gotten out if the abuse was more than I could handle, but hopefully not sulking and giving up. You may never overcome that in your future life. I told my kids that when a certain coach had abusive problems. In this world, few are counseled so. Just leave. Sometimes it is how you leave especially of your tanking hurts the team. I believe it did. Now let CWM and Cunningham learn from this. They may lose their position or raises, but we are dealing with youth. It is on to them too if this is so. If so Vik wasn't the only one tanking.
I think there's a got to be better term for what you're describing. You make it sound like it's physical, which is not the case.Brent Wyrick
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It is scary to think a) a donor is making sole/direct NIL payments to a player, and B) as a result of that NIL money the donor has influence over the coach to determine playing time. Both sound extremely like pay-4-playRed and Black are more of an Attitude than merely a color combination.
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Originally posted by Lobot View Post
What are you framing as abuse here Leo?
I think there's a got to be better term for what you're describing. You make it sound like it's physical, which is not the case.
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Originally posted by Lobot View PostLet's say for example, that Vik is the starter and suddenly an important donor says to someone in the Athletic Dept that Wes needs to be playing his best players and not just he one's he's loyal to. This comes after a press conference where Wes specifically defended Vik's loyalty to the program after he was sick and had a really bad game (Iowa St.?) That info from the donor trickles down through the dept. to Wes. The next game Vik gets 1 minute on the floor in garbage time and doesn't play the next game. Based on information I got, the above scenario happened. The thought between myself and several people I talked to was this was probably related to NIL payments to others who were then played over Viktor.
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Originally posted by sedz View PostIf I'm following this right, we stopped playing Vik because a donor wanted more minutes for Josh Reed? He's the only guy who saw a significant jump in playing time the two games after Iowa St. We have a major bureaucratic problem if that's true.
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Originally posted by leo from jersey View Post
Of course you didn't look at who started at the end of the year - Hint not Aziz I think.
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Originally posted by sedz View PostSwitching starters around is one thing. Cutting Vik from the rotation in favor of Josh Reed because of a donor is a completely different animal. That's wild.
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