Expansion thread 2022

[bearcatbret]

I think if UCLA leaves, the floodgates might open for the schools to get out of the PAC12

When UCLA leaves and when the PAC gets a streaming rights deal that will provide next to zero viewers, then they will bail. I just do not see any of the remaining PAC teams adding value to the Big 10. I think that the Big 10 will look towards the ACC. Remember that if enough members of the ACC vote to dissolve, they can. Some teams to the SEC some to the BIG. I think that the Big 12 is safe for now because there are no brand names with big markets.

[Lobot]

I am surprised that no one has bailed from the PAC as of yet. Waiting on the new media deal or not, do you really want to stay in a league where 1 or 2 teams from your largest market are leaving or attempting to? In a world somewhere in the multiverse where UCLA does stay put, do you really think the Big Ten stays put, or add 1 to 3 teams from a mix of the ACC, Big 12 and/or PAC?

I think if UCLA leaves, the floodgates might open for the schools to get out of the PAC12

[Illuminerdski]

I am surprised that no one has bailed from the PAC as of yet. Waiting on the new media deal or not, do you really want to stay in a league where 1 or 2 teams from your largest market are leaving or attempting to? In a world somewhere in the multiverse where UCLA does stay put, do you really think the Big Ten stays put, or add 1 to 3 teams from a mix of the ACC, Big 12 and/or PAC?

[bearcatbret]

An interesting article about the future of the PAC media deal and it really is not good. It also is an in-site where watching games may be heading. Pac-12 media rights deal on hold as league awaits resolution on UCLA's Big Ten status from regents meeting (msn.com) I think that only the PAC thinks that their value is high.

[Lobot]

Make me wonder if both these guys have crossed paths before. Yormark doesn't seem to like Kliavkoff and I think they were both stationed in Vegas in their prior careers.

[swilsonsp4]

The following is a synthesis of a few twitter feeds involving Dennis Dodd, Nicole Auerbach and others, as well as what I gleaned from a podcast on the subject:

IMG held a conference of NCAA D1 commissioners this week and some interesting quotes resulted. Brett Yormark said he expects that the B12 will expand, most likely into the Pacific time zone, in the near future. When asked if that would be for basketball (Gonzaga), he said if we add for basketball only, excellent; if football is included, great. He wants to be in all four time zones.


George Kliavkoff, on the other hand, pushed off the idea that the P12 media rights deal will be finished this month. He said the prime reason is that they are waiting for the California regents to vote on 12/14/22 either to stop UCLA from moving to the B10 or to let them go. He then added that part of the reason to wait is because of the Colorado hiring of Deion Sanders, which Kliavkoff said will add value to the conference, thereby providing a better deal for the conference. His logic was that the Buffs would soon get to 10 wins, reach the Top 10 and be of greater value to Amazon, Fox, etc. [He may be kidding himself, or trying to kid the media outlets. There's no way he can predict how successful Neon Deion will be at that level.]

Kliavkoff's last thought was shot down by Bob Thompson, who retired as the Fox Sport CEO awhile back. Thompson said such a hiring would have no impact. He said that "the AFLAC duck might pay Deion more", but no media firm will do likewise for the P12.

It appears that Kliavkoff is grasping at straws, trying to save his conference. By contrast, Yormark is in command, lobbing hand grenades at Kliavkoff.

[red_n_black_attack]

Well, here's a curveball. The ASUN and WAC are creating a football only conference and all members will be jumping to FBS.

https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...bs-sources-say

This could be the new 10th FBS conference when Pac10 collapses. This will be a great landing spot for the likes of Ore St, Wash St, Cal, ASU, AZ, CU.

We want Washington, Oregon, Utah, and Stanford in the Big 12, unless CU does something magical and Deion is coach for longer than 2 years, both of which I doubt.

[Lobot]

Well, here's a curveball. The ASUN and WAC are creating a football only conference and all members will be jumping to FBS.

https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...bs-sources-say

[bearcatbret]

California Regents to meet on Dec. 14 to decide..... I doubt if they have the authority. College football expansion: Date set for UCLA, Big Ten decision (msn.com)

[longtimefan]

This is interesting and makes some sense so, it will never happen. It has 4 mega conferences with three tiers each. Only Tier 1 can play for a national championship (currently, UC is in tier 1). However, you can move up or down in the tiers based on your performance. There are 5 slides to the article so you will need to hit next or previous to see the other slides. All conferences are based on geography and brings back historical rivalries. College Football: The 4 Super-Leagues fans deserve (fansided.com)

The only question is whether it works on TV.

[bearcatbret]

This is interesting and makes some sense so, it will never happen. It has 4 mega conferences with three tiers each. Only Tier 1 can play for a national championship (currently, UC is in tier 1). However, you can move up or down in the tiers based on your performance. There are 5 slides to the article so you will need to hit next or previous to see the other slides. All conferences are based on geography and brings back historical rivalries. College Football: The 4 Super-Leagues fans deserve (fansided.com)

[longtimefan]

Per McMurphy Twitter

”Big 12 commish Brett Yormark & Gonzaga AD Chris Standiford met earlier today in Austin, Texas, & there is “growing mutual interest” regarding Gonzaga joining the Big 12, sources told @ActionNetworkHQ. Gonzaga played at UT in men’s basketball Wednesday night”

[Lobot]

Something that has gotten lost recently is that the California regents meet tomorrow to decide whether or not to block UCLA's departure to the Big 10. UC regents alter agenda and may vote Thursday on blocking UCLA's move to the Big Ten (msn.com)

This is only happening because the Cal Regents and the Governor are mad they didn't get consulted on the conference change. I don't think the Regents actually have a say in this. Some heads might roll at UCLA but it's not getting blocked.

[bearcatbret]

Something that has gotten lost recently is that the California regents meet tomorrow to decide whether or not to block UCLA's departure to the Big 10. UC regents alter agenda and may vote Thursday on blocking UCLA's move to the Big Ten (msn.com)

[bearcatbret]

Sad but probably very true. We still don't garner the respect we deserve as a program. Maybe after a couple of years of success in the B12.

I do not believe that anything will happen until we get closer to the ACC TV negotiations. I wonder when (if) college football goes to two conferences (the NFL model), Fox and ESPN sit on the sidelines and pick the teams, similar to a playground game. lol. If so, it will be TV markets plus winning teams. That is the only way that the bottom feeders from the Big 10 and SEC get dropped.