Navy 11/5 4:00 ESPNU

[BorisTheCat]

Also.... am I the only amazed by The Godfather... if he is THIS good already... wow.

[bearcatbret]

^^ love that reference. The delay of game penalties in the second half need to stop. No excuses. We are noticing that teams are focusing on stopping the run to force Ben to beat them. He does just enough to do just that. A handful of dropped passes again today. One cost us a TD.
Cincinnati Defeats Navy 20-10 - University of Cincinnati Athletics (gobearcats.com)

[Lobot]

Also.... am I the only amazed by The Godfather... if he is THIS good already... wow.

He's having a great season. Funny thing is he was not slated to be the starter at the beginning of the year.

[RedDog]

I am surprised and disappointed that we can't run the ball.....on anybody! I thought our O line was pretty good coming into the season. Even in the games where we have a decent rushing number, it mostly comes from 1 play for long yardage. When we need to maintain possession and run clock we are unable to do so. We continually throw the ball on 3rd and 1 or two. Not sure if this is scheme, talent on O line, or talent at running back. Announcers have indicated we are tipping our hand on running plays with predictable motion. Teams we haven't been able to run on, are getting run over by other teams. I would like to think that if we lined up with Navy talent, and threw the ball only as much as they do, that we would have the talent to maul them, but without our passing game we wouldn't have won yesterday.

[djs]

Agree completely with RedDog. Except for isolated big plays, we can't run the ball at all. Don't understand why, but I'm not a coach. It would be nice to be able to pick up consistent yardage on the ground.

It was nice to see Lorenz playing yesterday. Has he been hurt? I had been wondering what happened to him.

[Lobot]

I am surprised and disappointed that we can't run the ball.....on anybody! I thought our O line was pretty good coming into the season. Even in the games where we have a decent rushing number, it mostly comes from 1 play for long yardage. When we need to maintain possession and run clock we are unable to do so. We continually throw the ball on 3rd and 1 or two. Not sure if this is scheme, talent on O line, or talent at running back. Announcers have indicated we are tipping our hand on running plays with predictable motion. Teams we haven't been able to run on, are getting run over by other teams. I would like to think that if we lined up with Navy talent, and threw the ball only as much as they do, that we would have the talent to maul them, but without our passing game we wouldn't have won yesterday.

Hard to run when they stack the box and force you to pass. We've seen that from defenses 4 weeks in a row. The passing game is not terribly effective either without Tyler Scott on the field. Scott stretchs the defense and opens other things up for the rest of the receiving corps.

[Lobot]

Here's the Box score:

https://gobearcats.com/documents/2022/11/5/31407.PDF

[Lobot]

Since we were talking about defense. here's something Justin Williams wrote before the Navy game. ($)

https://theathletic.com/3749472/2022...8&redirected=1

[Bearcat93]

What’s the deal with Kiner not playing? Zero snaps last week, 1 carry late in the game yesterday.

[Lobot]

What’s the deal with Kiner not playing? Zero snaps last week, 1 carry late in the game yesterday.

He's been passed on the depth chart and when we we're not running well to begin with, there's no reason for him to be out there. McClelland and Montgomery are RB1 and RB2 right now.

[Bearcat93]

It’s still curious though when you compare Montgomery’s production vs Kiner.

[Lobot]

It’s still curious though when you compare Montgomery’s production vs Kiner.

I agree. I don't have any further insight on it but there's always the possiblity that he hasn't totally digested the playbook yet since he came in after spring ball. Also there's the possiblity that's he's missing pass blocking assignments.

[Lobot]

Post game from Justin W. : ($)

https://theathletic.com/3759538/2022...navy-football/

[Lobot]

Post game from Justin W. : ($)

https://theathletic.com/3759538/2022...navy-football/

This article answers a couple of question that folks asked in the thread. I'm paraphrasing but Kiner was a part of the game plan yesterday and they changed the game plan to match the game situation. Part of his not playing much was in fact pass protection related.

Metz was healthy for the first time since spring. They finally mentioned it was an ankle injury. I suppose when you are 6'9 and 330+, that becomes a healing issue.