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  • bearcat428
    Member
    • Aug 2008
    • 370

    #436
    Originally posted by qsilvr2531
    Well I think Combs is being groomed to be a head coach at the college level, so it isn't completely out of the question that he would get the job after Kelly leaves.


    i mean....really? you people are serious? this isn't thomas moore football!

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    • youngandrestless
      Banned
      • Nov 2009
      • 87

      #437
      Originally posted by qsilvr2531
      Why would it be improbable for him to win at ND? He's won, and won big, at every other place he's coached.
      Kerry Combs would win big at Notre Dame. He would install the triple option and run the opponent's crazy.

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      • bearcat428
        Member
        • Aug 2008
        • 370

        #438
        now we're going to compare combs to faust! this gets better all the time!

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        • Best Body
          Distinguished Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 926

          #439
          Originally posted by qsilvr2531
          Why would it be improbable for him to win at ND? He's won, and won big, at every other place he's coached.
          Unless he can get them to reduce their academic standards for players, and good luck with that, he'll always have less talent than the top programs ND is compared to. Since they'll continue to play a brutal schedule, every year, they'll always lose at least a couple. He couldn't do any worse than Weis, but every year he isn't in a BCS bowl, it is a failed year.

          Speaking of which, if UC beats Pitt on Sat., and Kelly does leave, the next coach only has two straight BCS bowl games to live up to. It'd be interesting to see how that coach would be judged.

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          • Thegreatone
            Veteran
            • Apr 2007
            • 3940

            #440
            1. Kerry is valuable to this program and we should do everything to keep him.
            2. He isnt going to be the head coach here anytime soon.
            3. Kerry is not in same league that Faust was at when he was at Moeller. Moeller won 6 State titles in like 8 years and were named mythical national champs 5 times. No where even close.

            4. The new coach, if ND wants Kelly, will be Butch Jones.

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            • Bruce Monnin
              Member
              • Apr 2007
              • 403

              #441
              Maybe we can convince Notre Dame to go after Kerry Coombs instead of Coach Kelly.

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              • Dambee
                Member
                • Jul 2009
                • 83

                #442
                Originally posted by qsilvr2531
                Why would it be improbable for him to win at ND? He's won, and won big, at every other place he's coached.
                True...however there also were three very successful coaches (in different capacities) that preceeded the next head coach for ND. I'm not saying that if BK is the next head coach he won't succeed...just saying it would be much easier at UC.

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                • qsilvr2531
                  Distinguished Member
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 723

                  #443
                  Originally posted by Dambee
                  True...however there also were three very successful coaches (in different capacities) that preceeded the next head coach for ND. I'm not saying that if BK is the next head coach he won't succeed...just saying it would be much easier at UC.
                  I don't really see it. None of the guys the ND has hired since Holtz have had a resume comparable to BK's (Weiss had never even been a head coach). Davie was a career coordinator and Weiss had only been a head coach at the high school level. Willingham is the closest in terms of head coaching success and his success was taking a Stanford team without much recent success and turning them into a slightly better than .500 team. Kelly has almost as many wins as a UC coach in three years as Willingham had at Stanford in seven years. And Kelly has had coaching success at two other programs prior to UC.
                  Nick Frame
                  College of Engineering '01
                  College of Arts and Sciences '04
                  College of Business '08

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                  • DMoney_70
                    Member
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 482

                    #444
                    Originally posted by youngandrestless
                    Why would you say that? Notre Dame hired Gerry Faust directly from Moeller High without any college experience.
                    Exactly. And how did that work out for them?

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                    • qsilvr2531
                      Distinguished Member
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 723

                      #445
                      Originally posted by Best Body
                      Unless he can get them to reduce their academic standards for players, and good luck with that, he'll always have less talent than the top programs ND is compared to. Since they'll continue to play a brutal schedule, every year, they'll always lose at least a couple. He couldn't do any worse than Weis, but every year he isn't in a BCS bowl, it is a failed year.

                      Speaking of which, if UC beats Pitt on Sat., and Kelly does leave, the next coach only has two straight BCS bowl games to live up to. It'd be interesting to see how that coach would be judged.
                      ND doesn't have any higher academic standards for its athletes than UM or Ohio State. And talent hasn't been a problem at ND under Weiss, they've consistently recruited like a top 10 team since he got there, but the only teams he's been able to win with were the teams comprised of Willingham's "bad" recruits.

                      Is ND's schedule particularly brutal? One of the big reasons they got picked to be in a BCS game this pre-season was that they had, for the second straight season at least, a fairly easy schedule.
                      Nick Frame
                      College of Engineering '01
                      College of Arts and Sciences '04
                      College of Business '08

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                      • vegasbearcat
                        Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 213

                        #446
                        Well here we go. Here's the latest from the footballcoachscoop.com:

                        Notre Dame:
                        Sources tell us that the center of the search for Athletic Director Jack Swarbrick is with Skip Holtz (East Carolina Head Coach), Randy Edsall (UConn Head
                        Coach) and Jim Harbaugh (Stanford Head Coach).

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                        • udonkey
                          Distinguished Member
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 996

                          #447
                          Originally posted by vegasbearcat
                          Well here we go. Here's the latest from the footballcoachscoop.com:

                          Notre Dame:
                          Sources tell us that the center of the search for Athletic Director Jack Swarbrick is with Skip Holtz (East Carolina Head Coach), Randy Edsall (UConn Head
                          Coach) and Jim Harbaugh (Stanford Head Coach).
                          Yeah, but meanwhile, there's an "offer on the table" for BK, according to yesterday's post.

                          I hope this site gets hacked or something - they're about as credible as ESPN.
                          @mrgalati / @RepOfCincinnati

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                          • Thegreatone
                            Veteran
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 3940

                            #448
                            THey have lost any crediability they might have had.

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                            • bcatwilly
                              Member
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 369

                              #449
                              Originally posted by vegasbearcat
                              Well here we go. Here's the latest from the footballcoachscoop.com:

                              Notre Dame:
                              Sources tell us that the center of the search for Athletic Director Jack Swarbrick is with Skip Holtz (East Carolina Head Coach), Randy Edsall (UConn Head
                              Coach) and Jim Harbaugh (Stanford Head Coach).
                              Guys, this is total smoke screen IMO. Get to Pittsburgh and cheer your butts off for the Bearcats on Saturday, but prepare to hear that Coach Kelly is the next Notre Dame coach not long after. I would LOVE to be dead wrong on this of course.

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                              • ZCat
                                Member
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 193

                                #450
                                63/66 in athletic budget??

                                Originally posted by 08bearcat
                                He can't say no because he isn't paid as much as Greg Schiano. Period. The end. If he made the 3m a year, then I would be more worried about him leaving at this point if he won't commit. Right now, what a lot of people perceive as his best better opportunity is about to come available, he has to use that leverage. Wouldn't you? He has to test UC. Everything we've done for him/because of him has been a stretch for our program. I expect if he stays, we're probably going to have to put him in the 2.5m a year range, or at least 1$ more than the next highest paid coach in the BE. (2.2ish)

                                He has said all of the things about his general happiness in Cincinnati. I believe him, I think most of us do. But just because he's happy in Cancun doesn't mean he can win a championship there, or he can build a sustaining program there. Unfortunately, we're not in a situation where we can be comfortable. We're 63/66 BCS schools in athletic budget. He needs total assurance that this thing won't go bust in 2 years.
                                Can anyone provde a link?? I believe you, but this is very interesting. Whom is below us? Geez, we have a long road ahead of us. Also, what happened to one of the best weight rooms in the country?? Then Rutgers builds one and they are touting the same thing. Hard to know what is true.

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