Welcome to the Big XII

[Lobot]

Not sure if this belongs here but it is about UC sports funding and what the Big 12 will mean. UC winning on the field, but losing money at sports (wcpo.com)

Not sure that article belongs anywhere. Lots of mistakes in this thing.

[bearcatbret]

Not sure if this belongs here but it is about UC sports funding and what the Big 12 will mean. UC winning on the field, but losing money at sports (wcpo.com)

[Lobot]

I'll have to look over the entiure contract again whn I have some time. I was going off what the GoCoogs writers were saying about it.

[red_n_black_attack]

I think 2023 is possible based on UT and OU trying to get out early but based on what's on Houston's contract we wouldn't want that unless they adjust the terms. Partial Share and no TV money until the existing Grant of Rights expires? It's possible we would still come out ahead there money wise but on the surface it seems unlikely.

I read the contract or interpretted it differently. The reason distributions lag a year is because payments are made for the prior year. If we start play on July 1, 2024, we don't get distributions on July 1, 2024 that were based on 23/24 school year. If that makes sense and is true, then it would stand to reason that joinig in July 2023 would mean distributions (full or in part) would begin in July 2024.

This is also where I think the AAC has leverage in negotiating a higher payout than UConn, even though we will give much more notice. The revenue for joining the Big 12 will be much larger, even if in part, than what UConn is getting from the Beast with football as an independent. Since we have more to lose, the AAC can afford to wait or balk.

[Lobot]

I think 2023 is possible based on UT and OU trying to get out early but based on what's on Houston's contract we wouldn't want that unless they adjust the terms. Partial Share and no TV money until the existing Grant of Rights expires? It's possible we would still come out ahead there money wise but on the surface it seems unlikely.

[bearcatbret]

I know that logistically it would be near impossible to start in the 2022 season but that is what I would like to see. I suspect that we will have a handful of AAC games in the next few years after moving to the Big 12 just because of scheduling issues for all schools involved.

Also, no urgency in Nippert expansion. Will UC's move to Big 12 lead to bigger Nippert Stadium? (wcpo.com)

[Lobot]

Here are the Houston contract details with the Big XII . I’d expect ours to be similar

https://gocoogs.com/big-12-contract/

[red_n_black_attack]

No surprise here, Mike Aresco commented Friday Dec 31st on ESPN radio that they are willing to negotiate with teams leaving for the Big 12. Not much else.

https://www.1017theteam.com/news/aac...o-before-2024/

[Lobot]

I have been looking for articles, but cannot find anything thus far.

Is there any discussion or requirement for the Big12 members to expand Olympic sports offerings?

Any talk of wrestling or resurrecting men's soccer?

My gut feeling is that I don't think you'll see men's soccer resurrected and I suspect you would not see any men's sports added at all even if we opted to add something. Much more likely you'd see women's softball pop up at some point.

[swilsonsp4]

I have been looking for articles, but cannot find anything thus far.

Is there any discussion or requirement for the Big12 members to expand Olympic sports offerings?

Any talk of wrestling or resurrecting men's soccer?

When UC was accepted to the B12, Cunningham said UC will not need to add any sports. They’ll probably worka to keep lacrosse in the AAC, which already includes Vandy & FL.

[made_hand]

I have been looking for articles, but cannot find anything thus far.

Is there any discussion or requirement for the Big12 members to expand Olympic sports offerings?

Any talk of wrestling or resurrecting men's soccer?

[bearcatbret]

Winners and losers in conference realignment. Spoiler, the only two losers on the list are the AAC and Big 12. Winners and Losers of College Football Conference Realignment | Bleacher Report | Latest News, Videos and Highlights

[bearcatbret]

We had better join sooner than later. This article spells out how the power 5 are going to separate from the rest of the college world and take an even big share of the money with them. With NCAA constitution changing, will powerful college football teams effort to formally divide FBS? - CBSSports.com

[swilsonsp4]

On another topic, here's a piece by Ari Wasserman of theathletic.com ($) on the potential impact of the move to the B12 on recruiting for each of the four new entrants:

https://theathletic.com/2964357/2021...ampaign=601983

[Genester]

Whose safety? The people listening at home? Because one can't listen to the radio at the stadium, what with all the generated noise and time delays of the play-by-play. If you're claiming the offiicals being named, that's common knowledge and easily obtained information.

So, obviously, I don't agree with your opinion.

We can agree to disagree. Of course, there's no history and no recent examples of people listening to others with a microphone and taking this kind of knowledge and inciting/threatening violence against others or their loved ones, in person or through social media. It can only happen at the game, once the game is over, everyone instantly forgets and moves on. There's no record or trail to refer to for that knowledge, once the game is over it disappears into thin air.

/sarcasm off

I have no love for the conference bureaucracy, nor would I ever suggest these refs are the most competent people ever at their jobs. However, in this day and age, there's good reason to err on the side of caution.