The Wes Miller Thread

[Rufus]

I want to preface this with the statement that I have no inside information whatsoever. And I am not in any way affiliated with the University of Cincinnati. With that said, I don't know what kind of support Arizona State gave to Bobby Hurley or how it compares to UC's support, but why do you supposed he failed this year and how would you feel about him being our new coach as he was released earlier this week. If WM is let go of course!

[longtimefan]

I don't know whether UC has a deal in place. I do think they have been talking with other coaches' agents, likely for weeks now. Any AD will have been talking with agents, especially one whose coach has not taken a previously perennial NCAA tournament team to the tournament in any of the years he has been the coach.

CWM is gone. It is a question of when that occurs and how much he will receive for parting ways.

I just have a feeling we’re about to make a bad hire and set us back another decade. I hope I’m wrong about that, but Wes is the first coach we’ve had in the NIL era, and how can we know if the new hire will be better able to deal with that? Guys winning at a lower level haven’t really had to face that, a new dimension to a coaching hire. I know most of the loudest UC fans are at the point of “how can it get any worse?” But it can. A lot of us are mentioning Calhoun as a possible candidate, he was 118-106 in seven years at Youngstown State, a big risk.

[longtimefan]

Goodman on Wes…
https://x.com/TheFieldOf68/status/20...big-12-exit%2F

[London 'Cat]

I just have a feeling we’re about to make a bad hire and set us back another decade. I hope I’m wrong about that, but Wes is the first coach we’ve had in the NIL era, and how can we know if the new hire will be better able to deal with that? Guys winning at a lower level haven’t really had to face that, a new dimension to a coaching hire. I know most of the loudest UC fans are at the point of “how can it get any worse?” But it can. A lot of us are mentioning Calhoun as a possible candidate, he was 118-106 in seven years at Youngstown State, a big risk.

Nobody knows who is being considered. Calhoun is a name mentioned on this forum, likely due to his connection to UC and his success at Utah State. I don’t think his overall record at Youngstown State is a concern. His first season he was 8-24. His last season he went 22-10 with the prior season 24-10. Utah State saw something in him and he has been successful. But, who knows whom UC is considering. How many of us thought Wes was being considered before he was hired?

[longtimefan]

Nobody knows who is being considered. Calhoun is a name mentioned on this forum, likely due to his connection to UC and his success at Utah State. I don’t think his overall record at Youngstown State is a concern. His first season he was 8-24. His last season he went 22-10 with the prior season 24-10. Utah State saw something in him and he has been successful. But, who knows whom UC is considering. How many of us thought Wes was being considered before he was hired?

I get that, it’s just at my age I’d rather not have a bad hire to set us way back. I’m really worried about that.

[longtimefan]

If we move on from Wes, some of the names I’m seeing:

Jerrod Calhoun — Utah State, Age 44
Bob Huggins disciple, Calhoun built Youngstown State from scratch before big time success at Utah State, leading them to the NCAA Tournament and showing he can navigate the portal extremely well. He graduated from UC and served as a student assistant under Huggins.

Josh Schertz — Saint Louis, Age 50
A lot of teams will be after him, 32 wins at Indiana State in 2023-24 and now has Saint Louis tracking toward the NCAA Tournament. Probably the top target out there.

Casey Alexander — Belmont, Age 53
Alexander has won at least 20 games in each of his past 10 seasons as a head coach and is considered one of the top evaluators of high school talent in the country. He’s been resistant to leaving in the past but is expected to be a hot commodity this time.

Gerry McNamara — Siena, Age 42
He spent 15 seasons on Jim Boeheim’s staff and just led Siena to the NCAA Tournament in his second year, going 22-11. But limited head coaching experience at the high-major level.

Ben Jacobson — Northern Iowa, Age 55
A veteran mid-major coach with a long track record of success in the Missouri Valley, Jacobson has been mentioned alongside Calhoun and Alexander as candidates for Midwest power-conference openings.

Chris Jans — Mississippi State, Age 56
Not sure about this one, could UC look to poach a sitting high-major head coach like Jans, with Big 12 and SEC coaching experience?

[leo from jersey]

I just have a feeling we’re about to make a bad hire and set us back another decade. I hope I’m wrong about that, but Wes is the first coach we’ve had in the NIL era, and how can we know if the new hire will be better able to deal with that? Guys winning at a lower level haven’t really had to face that, a new dimension to a coaching hire. I know most of the loudest UC fans are at the point of “how can it get any worse?” But it can. A lot of us are mentioning Calhoun as a possible candidate, he was 118-106 in seven years at Youngstown State, a big risk.

we are already back more than a decade. In a conference tournament, on national tv, up by 8 with two minutes to play, the team could not get the ball past mid court. When was the last time any of us saw such lousy basketball. Brennen no. Yates No Badger no

[leo from jersey]

Here is a very disgusting thought. Someone is trying to silence the former UC greats.

Obviously Sean Kilpatrick knows basketball and what he had to watch lately might be termed basketball, but it sure isn't UC basketball.



"I remember recently speaking on the state of the program and being told I wasn't supporting the university the 'right way,'" . "From that moment on, I washed my hands of it! I gave the University of Cincinnati and that city blood, sweat, and tears for 5 years!"

How unbelievable. Do they say that to Kenyon? Would they dare say it to Oscar.

Is the only approved support checks?

Does this say WM stays or Cunningham? Who knows.

WE can't afford to lose the greats. Would they say that to the Kelce Brothers in football. They really can't be pleased one would think.

Who told Sean that? Admins, alums, former players, Coaches, Deep pockets?

Sean further speaks ""I could've left after my sophomore or junior year, but I stayed because I felt like that was home and graduated," Kilpatrick continued. "So the idea that I can't have an opinion about the program I helped build … will forever be bonkers to me. Wishing everyone there the best.""


What made Sean great was the persistent effort to be a winner. He sure has not seen much of that recently in his(our) beloved Bearcats.


Folks. You decide. Bearcats greats or mediocre coaches and admins.

[leo from jersey]

Sean Kilpatrick is second only to Oscar Robertson on UC's all-time scoring list. He is a member of the James P. Kelly UC Athletics Hall of Fame.

[longtimefan]

Sean is still angry that his number wasn’t retired.

[Rufus]

If we go after another mid major coach with a mediocre resume I think that would set us back awhile. This next hire has to be a home run or close to it. He will definitely bring some players with and quite possibly have some players he's talking to already in the portal. Players play for NIL first and the coach second. The university is way down the list when it comes to the decision on where to play. And whoever the next coach is hopefully he can pay enough for some of the rotational players that have eligibility left to stay.

[D.A.H.]

Sean is still angry that his number wasn’t retired.

he also has eyes in his head that work, like, fortunately, most of us, and a nose that can smell - you don't need mumbo jumbo stats to see the crap that wes has conducted on the court, or to smell the stench from it.
SK represented this university with everything he had - this school meant something to him - can wes or (m)any of the current cast say that?

[leo from jersey]

Sean is still angry that his number wasn’t retired.

to have a number at UC retired, you had to be above and beyond many other stars. Do you think Sean was?

I realize this may be off the subject.

[KevMan1976]

to have a number at UC retired, you had to be above and beyond many other stars. Do you think Sean was?

I realize this may be off the subject.

I'm young enough that the only jersey I remember "seeing" retired was Kmart. If memory serves, Kenyon was a consensus national player of the year. That's a pretty big deal. While I absolutely love Killa (again, if memory serves on the nickname), I don't think his accolades measured quite that high - at least on a national scale.

[swilsonsp4]

If we move on from Wes, some of the names I’m seeing:

Jerrod Calhoun — Utah State, Age 44
Bob Huggins disciple, Calhoun built Youngstown State from scratch before big time success at Utah State, leading them to the NCAA Tournament and showing he can navigate the portal extremely well. He graduated from UC and served as a student assistant under Huggins.

Josh Schertz — Saint Louis, Age 50
A lot of teams will be after him, 32 wins at Indiana State in 2023-24 and now has Saint Louis tracking toward the NCAA Tournament. Probably the top target out there.

Casey Alexander — Belmont, Age 53
Alexander has won at least 20 games in each of his past 10 seasons as a head coach and is considered one of the top evaluators of high school talent in the country. He’s been resistant to leaving in the past but is expected to be a hot commodity this time.

Gerry McNamara — Siena, Age 42
He spent 15 seasons on Jim Boeheim’s staff and just led Siena to the NCAA Tournament in his second year, going 22-11. But limited head coaching experience at the high-major level.

Ben Jacobson — Northern Iowa, Age 55
A veteran mid-major coach with a long track record of success in the Missouri Valley, Jacobson has been mentioned alongside Calhoun and Alexander as candidates for Midwest power-conference openings.

Chris Jans — Mississippi State, Age 56
Not sure about this one, could UC look to poach a sitting high-major head coach like Jans, with Big 12 and SEC coaching experience?

Casey Alexander is finalizing a contract with K-State, per espn.com.