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  • Originally posted by D.A.H. View Post

    they also let Lahkin and Reynolds go.
    It has really bothered me watching Lahkin blossom at Clemson. I mean, I'm happy for Victor. Just disappointed that it didn't happen here.

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    • We were competitive in the middle 30 minutes. But Iowa St went on a 10-0 run in the opening 5 minutes and then an 11-0 run in the final 4 minutes. That was more than the final margin.

      Nobody was good in this game, but Jizzle was our best player believe it or not. He posted a measly 0.5 net points. He filled up the stat sheet with three triples, 2 assists, 3 rebounds, a block, and steal. But he took 20 shots and his usage was over 40%. Simas was the only other player with positive net points (barely) because he went 2 of 5 from three and made the two technical free throws.

      Mitchell was our worst player with negative 3.8 net points. We barely used him at all in our offense and he went just 1 of 3 from the field. We also left him stranded in the post against bigger players because we still insist on playing two small guards and Simas. Everyone else had slightly negative net points.

      It's easy to defend big post players with a lineup of all athletic wings if you double and switch. But you have to play an ALL WING LINEUP. Jizzle, Day Day, and Simas is not that. And it also lets you get to the rim more. Not with back to the basket post play but with slashing. We only scored 12 points at the rim today because we play small or unathletic guys who can't finish there.

      We got outplayed at very position - guards, wings, and bigs. It's going to take a lot more than extra weight to fix that.

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      • Not even competitive against a 5 seed. Just treading water until Cunningham/Wes/Satterfield get sent back to DII ball, where they belong. Sad to see where this program is and has been for some time now.

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        • Until folks stop going to games & stop donating, this is the new norm.

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          • #16 Colorado tops WVU for its second win in a row

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            • Originally posted by leeraymond View Post

              Also it is hard to win when Mitchell gives up 30 to 64 pounds and Aziz gives up 25 to 39 pounds. Those guys could not stop Iowa State's inside game. Not big enough. Page is actually UC's second biggest player at 240. However, he did not play.

              Page did not play and we lost by 20pts? So is it safe to say, what Wes was using was not working?

              Rayvon who is a slasher and has scoring ability did not play! Regardless if he can't defend, neither can the other Starting 5 today.

              So one of the real questions to Miller is, why not? Why not give those young players a chance when it's not working with your starters?

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              • Rayvon's gotta stop fouling. He picked up 3 fouls in only 4 minutes yesterday and fouls 7 times per 40 minutes on the season. At this point might as well play him until he fouls out though, even if he doesn't make it to the second media timeout.

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                • Originally posted by BearKatz View Post


                  Page did not play and we lost by 20pts? So is it safe to say, what Wes was using was not working?

                  Rayvon who is a slasher and has scoring ability did not play! Regardless if he can't defend, neither can the other Starting 5 today.

                  So one of the real questions to Miller is, why not? Why not give those young players a chance when it's not working with your starters?
                  Page is in the doghouse, I expect him to be the first to hit the transfer portal once it opens. It seems Wes got tired of his lazy play and just stopped putting him in the game.

                  Griffith as sedz says, fouls too much. He's not great on offense and if you want to get minutes on defense, you can't foul all the time. I hope he sticks around for another year, as the potential is there and I think he'll reach it and be a significant contributor next year if he stays.

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                  • Originally posted by Gmann View Post
                    Whenever it gets a little tight ISU just bulls their way to the basket and scores. We have none of that with our group. We gave to go through acrobatics to get near the basket.
                    Saw a number of travels by ISU bigs- no call.
                    They don’t know what a pivot foot is.
                    Also quite a few fouls on ISU not called.
                    That being said- UC was horrible & got their
                    butts handed to them.

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                    • Originally posted by Longtime Lurker View Post
                      The number of minutes Lukosius gets is an enduring mystery to me. He is not quick enough/not enough effort to be a passable defender, he makes no attempt to rebound at his size, he just drifts around the outside on offense looking for heat check 3s, he isn't able to get himself open and we don't have a good enough offense to get him good looks. Every minute he is in, Reed or Mitchell have to try to defend 2 players and are therefore less effective on the offensive end. He gives up far more on defense and with lazy passes and lackadaisical effort on the boards for the tiny amount of shot-making he is contributing. it's maddening to watch.
                      I dunno, sounds like you just described the whole team.
                      Most do some good things but the bad outweighs the
                      good. Not gonna win many against good teams that way.

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                      • Originally posted by D.A.H. View Post

                        late in the game, dan hoard was talking about the crown tourny, and the time off - terry nelson made a crack that, with the portal, he hoped that UC would be able to field a team. I agree with others on here - this offseason could be really wild.

                        maybe two weeks ago, chad brendel filled in on 1530 - he was talking about how UC and XU had a similar amount of NIL to use on the basketball team - XU chose one way to build its roster, and UC wanted to emphasize the wings - they also let Lahkin and Reynolds go , who at least gave you something of an inside game. i don't have the mumbo jumbo crap on it, but maybe wes will figure out that you need some bulk in this league.
                        Still don’t understand the Lahkin deal.
                        Was it because he just wanted to shoot 3’s ?
                        Seemed like he missed quite a few games for
                        UC- was that discipline or injury ?

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                        • Originally posted by sedz View Post
                          We were competitive in the middle 30 minutes. But Iowa St went on a 10-0 run in the opening 5 minutes and then an 11-0 run in the final 4 minutes. That was more than the final margin.

                          Nobody was good in this game, but Jizzle was our best player believe it or not. He posted a measly 0.5 net points. He filled up the stat sheet with three triples, 2 assists, 3 rebounds, a block, and steal. But he took 20 shots and his usage was over 40%. Simas was the only other player with positive net points (barely) because he went 2 of 5 from three and made the two technical free throws.

                          Mitchell was our worst player with negative 3.8 net points. We barely used him at all in our offense and he went just 1 of 3 from the field. We also left him stranded in the post against bigger players because we still insist on playing two small guards and Simas. Everyone else had slightly negative net points.

                          It's easy to defend big post players with a lineup of all athletic wings if you double and switch. But you have to play an ALL WING LINEUP. Jizzle, Day Day, and Simas is not that. And it also lets you get to the rim more. Not with back to the basket post play but with slashing. We only scored 12 points at the rim today because we play small or unathletic guys who can't finish there.

                          We got outplayed at very position - guards, wings, and bigs. It's going to take a lot more than extra weight to fix that.
                          when you look like the middle school team playing the high school varsity, you need to get bigger. you get bigger, you maybe have an inside game on offense, and maybe you can also guard inside on defemse. maybe an inside game opens up the mid range offense, etc. its really pretty simple.

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                          • Didnt watch the game, didn't want to watch because I knew the outcome was going be exactly what we've seen all year long. I know it is mandated for UC to participate in the Crown tourney because of their record in the B12 but I sincerely doubt they will have players available to play. I expect many to bail out and portal. And you know what it would not upset me. Something drastic has to occur in order for people to realize that this once great program is an embarrassment right now. Even the sports talking heads and game announcers can't believe the product Miller is putting on the floor .

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                            • Originally posted by D.A.H. View Post
                              when you look like the middle school team playing the high school varsity, you need to get bigger. you get bigger, you maybe have an inside game on offense, and maybe you can also guard inside on defense. maybe an inside game opens up the mid range offense, etc. its really pretty simple.
                              We need an inside game on offense and to guard inside on defense. That's all that is simple. There are many paths to get there. Strong, bulky guys is one of them. But I don't want to sacrifice skill and quickness to get it. No more Reynolds or Vogt. Herb Jones or Pete Mickeal or Kenyon Martin or Justin Jackson or Tari Eason would be great in this league despite their lack of bulk. Or you can do it with scheme, as every good team that plays 4 guards or 4 wings has done.

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                              • Originally posted by sedz View Post
                                We need an inside game on offense and to guard inside on defense. That's all that is simple. There are many paths to get there. Strong, bulky guys is one of them. But I don't want to sacrifice skill and quickness to get it. No more Reynolds or Vogt. Herb Jones or Pete Mickeal or Kenyon Martin or Justin Jackson or Tari Eason would be great in this league despite their lack of bulk. Or you can do it with scheme, as every good team that plays 4 guards or 4 wings has done.
                                They must have the heart to play inside and the skill to do so. I don't see these paid employees (coaches) as able to teach or motivate such play. I believe the play we have witnessed over the last few seasons has confirmed this. Talk, speculation and dreaming won't get it done on the court.

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