Basketball Transfer Portal '25

[leo from jersey]

They're not moving on because they haven't prepared to do anything else in life to make a living. Most are in for a rude awakening when the gravy train ends and they discover how hard most of society has to work to earn a fraction of what is being thrown at them now. NIL is like many things in society that rather than just address a problem it overcorrects and creates a mess. I hope it finds some balance at some point.

in all fairness many if not most have been separated from the pack and given intense training since the third grade. This is all they know and have spent countless hours in preparation. So many don't see the hours of hard work to play at this level. There is little time for other things if you are elite. The parents must go beyond just seeing stars and have other expectations. Many do not. It starts at home. At school, there are conflicts between the coaches and the teachers. The coaches usually win. I am not speaking concerning the average player (even they go through countless hours of work in a good program), but those who go high up the ladder. This has been going on long before the NIL came.

[leeraymond]

But, to take it from the players' perspective-if boosters are going to pay good money for you to play (for the same or more than you would make overseas without having to move out of the country), why wouldn't you? They have a finite amount of time before their bodies can't keep up and they stop being good enough to get paid-and if they graduated and went pro, none of us would tell them it was time to move on. Like it or not, until the NCAA grows a pair (not likely), college sports is just another pro league right now-I'm not going to fault the players for taking advantage of a system the schools are too stupid to fix. I'd love to think that at least some of them are getting some education during this time, and they have the rest of their life (with a nest egg to pay for it) to finish their education, get a "real job", etc.

Yeah. I can see it from the players' perspective too. However, these players are asking the NCAA, with the help of lawyers, to grant more eligibility just to play basketball. How should the NCAA treat students that have their degrees already? Should these students be allowed to go back to school and play If granted extra eligibility? Some of these players are going be 26 and 27 years old, and maybe older, and still playing college ball.

At what point should the NCAA say, hey you have no eligibility left. Move on to a pro career if you still want to play basketball. It is time to move on. Let some of the younger players, that are still in school, make some money too.

[Gypo O'Leary]

Last year most of the players opted to stay in Cincy so I would assume that would account for a lot less posts about incoming portal players.

Last year it seemed like Miller landed in the middle of the pack in the Big 12 and was positioned to add a few players and improve. But instead there was just regression. I still don't get why during the course of the year Page and Betsey weren't given more minutes and coached and made battle-tested for the stretch run and league tourney. But clearly at some point, Miller decided his best strategy for winning was to just let his tag-team of kinda' point guards play one-on-one all night. He seemed like small conference coach, trying to get Richmond into the NCAAs. I'm a little old school, but with that team last year, I think Hugs would had them in the top 25. They had size, Skillings/Mitchell on the wings, and two guards. I have to blame Wes, I don't think he coached them right.

The problem now is that Wes has to now get back to being in the top half of the Big 12 before we can have an expectation of competing with the top of this league. Arizona, Baylor, Kansas are always going to have NIL money. K-State, Iowa St., BYU.....Cincinnati has to upgrade to their level. If next season is just Day-Day and Jizzle dribbling and shooting, it ain't happening.

[bearcatbret]

In response to some comments here, I still believe that athletes have five years to compete in four years. There should not be exceptions for athletes to compete in five, six or even seven years. I could see a graduate student playing if he graduated in four years and has one year of eligibility left. Not more than that though. I am getting tired of all of this - the money, the lawyers, the agents and even the players. It is hard to get behind the players if you know that they are going to jump.

[Longtime Lurker]

Yeah. I can see it from the players' perspective too. However, these players are asking the NCAA, with the help of lawyers, to grant more eligibility just to play basketball. How should the NCAA treat students that have their degrees already? Should these students be allowed to go back to school and play If granted extra eligibility? Some of these players are going be 26 and 27 years old, and maybe older, and still playing college ball.

At what point should the NCAA say, hey you have no eligibility left. Move on to a pro career if you still want to play basketball. It is time to move on. Let some of the younger players, that are still in school, make some money too.

Agreed with this... But that's my point-it's on the ncaa to actually do something to change the system but instead they sit on their hands. It's not the players fault that the system is broken.

[GoBearcats31]

UAB’s Christian Coleman to Oklahoma State

[Rufus]

In response to some comments here, I still believe that athletes have five years to compete in four years. There should not be exceptions for athletes to compete in five, six or even seven years. I could see a graduate student playing if he graduated in four years and has one year of eligibility left. Not more than that though. I am getting tired of all of this - the money, the lawyers, the agents and even the players. It is hard to get behind the players if you know that they are going to jump.

One of the pleasures of watching student athletes was watching raw freshman who desired to make it to be paid develope into the type of players that the pros would want to pay. But the agents, lawyers, and greedy alumni wanting a national championship at what ever cost has changed all that. Now everybody wants to get paid before they have even done anything and we have to learn new players, get re-acclimated to a whole new team every year.

[bearcatbret]

Winners and losers in the portal. Spoiler - Cincinnati listed as a winner. College Basketball Transfer Portal Winners And Losers | Fan Recap

[GoBearcats31]

Rothstein says UC, UNC, Florida, Gonzaga, USC, Washington also still in pursuit of Stojakovic.

Down to UNC, Illinois, Stanford

[Lobot]

Wanted to point out this guy, Baba Miller, because We went down to Florida to see him.

https://fausports.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/baba-miller/17734

[sedz]

Miller played a lot of PF alongside 7 footer Matas Vokietaitis. Miller posted a 4.5 BPM playing 30 mpg. He made 35% from three on 112 attempts, and 56% effective field goals. Good passing for a big with solid rim protection. Led the Owls in defensive BPM. He would be perfect for our team (and many others). I'd make him the priority if we can afford it.

If we're able to land Baba Miller, our preseason Torvik rank jumps up to #26. Just as good as last year but with some more offensive creators and more experience in the mix.

[leo from jersey]

If we're able to land Baba Miller, our preseason Torvik rank jumps up to #26. Just as good as last year but with some more offensive creators and more experience in the mix.

so you are suggesting that the non-stat intangibles interfered with the analytical forecast?

[BearKatz]

Any news on Tyler Betsey?

[bearcatbret]

so you are suggesting that the non-stat intangibles interfered with the analytical forecast?

Maybe the guard play determined the meltdown.

[sedz]

Yes, absolutely. That's the reason our roster was ranked #27 going into last season but we finished #44. It doesn't matter how good your players are if they're going to stand around and watch one guy chuck up 40% midrange jumpers. But I can't control that. All I can do is evaluate.

bearcatbret Yep, that was my thought last week.