Sad State of Bearcat Basketball

[SKell82155]

We chanted "overrated" and stormed the court today, haha. Fine by me in a win against a top 2 team.

Never have understood that chant- so you’re down playing your accomplishment ?

[bearcatbret]

We chanted "overrated" and stormed the court today, haha. Fine by me in a win against a top 2 team.

As Dan Hoard pointed out after the game, UC beat a ranked ISU football team, UC women beat a ranked ISU basketball team, now the UC men's bball beat another ranked ISU.

[longtimefan]

We chanted "overrated" and stormed the court today, haha. Fine by me in a win against a top 2 team.

I didn’t. Hate the overrated chant, and too old to get down there. I’m still sitting in my seat.

[sedz]

I don't support the paper bag idea at all. It's in poor taste. Like chanting "overrated" in a loss or storming the court against an unranked team. Rather than target the administration, it tells the rest of the country that our fans are just as embarrassing as our play. We're not the only fanbase that has endured bad teams and coaches.

We chanted "overrated" and stormed the court today, haha. Fine by me in a win against a top 2 team.

[BearKatz]

CWM has NIL and the Big 12. Mick had a depleted roster, rose from the ashes and mostly improved every year. If Mick were coaching UC right now, I think the record would be much different.

Night and day!

[Rufus]

I would agree with that BC1996!

[Bearcat1996]

Rufus I don't think the 2 mentioned were really wanted by the major programs

CWM has NIL and the Big 12. Mick had a depleted roster, rose from the ashes and mostly improved every year. If Mick were coaching UC right now, I think the record would be much different.

[leo from jersey]

There are exceptions, I know that. Lance was only here for one year and bolted. But MC did allow the Caliparis', Petinos, and others to intimidate him in recruiting. Mick did however excell at getting the most out of the players he did bring into the program. If only Miller had that characteristic in his DNA. But that is neither here nor there at this point right Leo. I'm going to cheer on my 'cats through the remainder of the season and see what transpires after it ends.

Rufus I don't think the 2 mentioned were really wanted by the major programs

[Rufus]

There are exceptions, I know that. Lance was only here for one year and bolted. But MC did allow the Caliparis', Petinos, and others to intimidate him in recruiting. Mick did however excell at getting the most out of the players he did bring into the program. If only Miller had that characteristic in his DNA. But that is neither here nor there at this point right Leo. I'm going to cheer on my 'cats through the remainder of the season and see what transpires after it ends.

[leo from jersey]

Correct. CWM has NIL money to obtain recruits, both raw recruits and transfers but has not been able to translate them into a roster that wins. As BCB stated above, Cronin didn't have that. Much of the time when the elite schools went after recruits, Cronin would back off. He didn't ( at that time have the coaching " chops" as did others. The NIL helps CWM get them to UC but the transfer portal allows them to book at seasons end.

He got two highly ranked-- One Lance Stephenson who many backed off of and one who was injured and became scared ------- The schools backed off of him too. I saw him in HS -- he was weak and the guys on the opponent team who knew my son, said highly overrated .Jermaine Lawrence ----- I saw his fear in HS. Shocked that Mic took him. I guess he thought he would recuperate from the injury --- it was in the head.

[Rufus]

Correct. CWM has NIL money to obtain recruits, both raw recruits and transfers but has not been able to translate them into a roster that wins. As BCB stated above, Cronin didn't have that. Much of the time when the elite schools went after recruits, Cronin would back off. He didn't ( at that time have the coaching " chops" as did others. The NIL helps CWM get them to UC but the transfer portal allows them to book at seasons end.

[bearcatbret]

Cronin did not have NIL money to throw towards recruits.

[Bearcat1996]

If Wes Miller is to be acknowledged for anything in his tenure here at UC it is that he was able to get some high profiled recruits to come here to play. Cronin was never able to do that as he was to timid to even attempt to go after these types of players. Now that Wes has opened that door, let's not slam it shut for good with some tasteless act of poor sportsmanship. Just because Wes can't win here and we need to be fiscally responsible in / and when he is let go, the bag thing would only exacerbate an already dismal situation and cause any potential new coach to not want to come here. This season is already in jeopardy, let's finish it with class no matter how disappointed we are as fans and let's try to attract the best possible coach that we can. I'm as frustrated as anyone at how these past five years have gone but unfortunately we don't have the luxury that some schools have where they can absorb a huge buyout on a contract. I think everyone in the city and county knows the sad state of the athletic program, some is of the doings of UC, and some is of the nature of college athletics today. I'll stay in my lane now but all we can do is hope that the next hire ( if there is one ) will be the correct one.

Interesting take and one I have not put much thought into. Does NIL help CWM in his efforts?

[swilsonsp4]

I have a question. Other than Kayden Allen, is UC actively recruiting anybody for next season? I have not heard anything. Just wondering.

The only name I've seen is 4* SF Chris Washington of TN. 247sports.com ranks him as #58 nationally. Washington has given no indication as to his leanings or when he might make a decision. The Vols, Bama and Villanova have been in the mix.

In this world of revenue sharing and NIL, many P5 schools (including UC) are hesitant to pour too much cash into HS kids who need development. Unless a player is ready to contribute (or, better yet, thrive) in the B12, GM Corey Evans is unlikely to look in that direction. Money will go towards retention and the portal (as it does in football).

[Rufus]

If Wes Miller is to be acknowledged for anything in his tenure here at UC it is that he was able to get some high profiled recruits to come here to play. Cronin was never able to do that as he was to timid to even attempt to go after these types of players. Now that Wes has opened that door, let's not slam it shut for good with some tasteless act of poor sportsmanship. Just because Wes can't win here and we need to be fiscally responsible in / and when he is let go, the bag thing would only exacerbate an already dismal situation and cause any potential new coach to not want to come here. This season is already in jeopardy, let's finish it with class no matter how disappointed we are as fans and let's try to attract the best possible coach that we can. I'm as frustrated as anyone at how these past five years have gone but unfortunately we don't have the luxury that some schools have where they can absorb a huge buyout on a contract. I think everyone in the city and county knows the sad state of the athletic program, some is of the doings of UC, and some is of the nature of college athletics today. I'll stay in my lane now but all we can do is hope that the next hire ( if there is one ) will be the correct one.