Big 12 in 2016

[blackattack]

Since the Big 12 has a tendency to do the exact opposite of what the media reports, I think the Big 12 expands on Monday. I'm still going with four teams. Two football only and the other two all sports.

PLEASE PLEASE!! LET THIS BE TRUE!!
As much as I dislike Texas, I know that the Big 12 is our last best hope. We need to get in if we're going to breath some life (and money) back into our athletic department. Anyone that reads this board knows how cynical I am about the Big 12 and Texas. But does anyone else find it amazing how quiet UC has been during this entire process ???

[TheDog]

Since the Big 12 has a tendency to do the exact opposite of what the media reports, I think the Big 12 expands on Monday. I'm still going with four teams. Two football only and the other two all sports.

[Lobot]

Jake Trotter at ESPN weighs in on Monday's meeting , etc.

http://www.espn.com/college-football...-bottom-big-12

[richard k.]

I wonder if UC is better off at this point in the AAC given the dysfunction of the BigXII. And, any benefits for UC will be short lived in the BigXII, because I believe UT and OU will leave the conference at their earliest opportunity, not to mention the fact that UC will likely not receive its full share of conference revenues in the first three to five years. IF UC gets an invite and accepts it, I feel that they will be left holding the bag just like they were in the BEast.

I agree the Big 12 as currently structured is a mess - BUT - and it is a big BUT - even a reduced share of their revenue stream is a LOT more than what we are getting now. Additionally if there is a restructuring, especially to 64, we are a LOT more likely to be included if we're in a P-5 conference than not. Also there is a significant difference in recruiting (assuming TT can keep assistants more easily in a P-5 situation). Finally, let's be honest, even in their current reduced state, wouldn't you rather see Texas and Oklahoma here as opposed to ECU or Tulsa? So, yes would I rather be in the ACC, sure, but they aren't asking - and what is sad, the Big 12 may not be either.

[London 'Cat]

I think you're spot on.
R.I.P. BigX11......I mean Little X. You're not getting in to the playoffs (again). Your "marquee" program (Texas) is in disarray, and Oklahoma's program is not much better. Your best team this year (Baylor) is a shining example of everything that's wrong with college sports (ethically challenged).

I wonder if UC is better off at this point in the AAC given the dysfunction of the BigXII. And, any benefits for UC will be short lived in the BigXII, because I believe UT and OU will leave the conference at their earliest opportunity, not to mention the fact that UC will likely not receive its full share of conference revenues in the first three to five years. IF UC gets an invite and accepts it, I feel that they will be left holding the bag just like they were in the BEast.

[blackattack]

I said it before, and I stand behind it now, UC is not getting an invitation to join the BigXII Conference. If they expand, UC will not be among the schools invited. But my best guess is that the conference will stay put with 10 members and then they will renegotiate the television deal. This was their only objective from the beginning. They just used all the possible expansion schools for negotiating leverage with the networks.

I think you're spot on.
R.I.P. BigX11......I mean Little X. You're not getting in to the playoffs (again). Your "marquee" program (Texas) is in disarray, and Oklahoma's program is not much better. Your best team this year (Baylor) is a shining example of everything that's wrong with college sports (ethically challenged).

[London 'Cat]

I said it before, and I stand behind it now, UC is not getting an invitation to join the BigXII Conference. If they expand, UC will not be among the schools invited. But my best guess is that the conference will stay put with 10 members and then they will renegotiate the television deal. This was their only objective from the beginning. They just used all the possible expansion schools for negotiating leverage with the networks.

[bearcatjd]

My guess is that there is no expansion. My goodness I hope I'm wrong & UC does get an invite. But I wouldn't bet on it.

[Lobot]

McMurphy is out there saying the Big 12 is not going to expand. Not sure if that's reporting or the ESPN company line for the week.

[Lobot]

There is a presser scheduled by the BIg 12 after the meeting on Monday.

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/coll...s-already-lost

[longtimefan]

7 day warning for Big 12 Board of Governors meeting. on Oct. 17. I don't expect much to be accomplished. Someone asked me this morning if would hear whether we're in or out at this meeting. My answer is if they choose to not expand at at all then we probably find out next week. If they're still waffling on teams then it probably gets tabled to December because there's no consensus on anyone but us and last time I checked we didn't have 8 votes either. We're stuck at 7 as far as I know.

Sounds about right. But quite frankly if they wait until the end of the year how could they expect the new teams to compete in 2017? If they do act in December with the idea that the new teams are available in 2017 that is a really poor way to treat both the new teams and the conferences they would be leaving. So I believe that if they do expand we should find out on Monday, otherwise new teams begin in 2018, which gives them one less year to receive the enhanced TV money before the whole thing blows up. So either way waiting until the end of the year is a really bad deal for somebody.

[Lobot]

7 day warning for Big 12 Board of Governors meeting. on Oct. 17. I don't expect much to be accomplished. Someone asked me this morning if would hear whether we're in or out at this meeting. My answer is if they choose to not expand at at all then we probably find out next week. If they're still waffling on teams then it probably gets tabled to December because there's no consensus on anyone but us and last time I checked we didn't have 8 votes either. We're stuck at 7 as far as I know.

[bearcatbret]

^I agree. Several articles say that UT's only option is to go independent. Their best option is to keep the Big 12 solvent.

[coach]

OU and UT are in the drivers seat. The question is does ESPN want OU and UT to save the Big 12? http://www.espn.com/college-football...-12-do-want-to

I think the answer is likely no. However, i do not think Texas is in the driver's seat compared to the Rolls Royce they are driving now with their own network. None of these other p5 conferences is going to let them dominate their conference's business.

[bearcatbret]

OU and UT are in the drivers seat. The question is does ESPN want OU and UT to save the Big 12? http://www.espn.com/college-football...-12-do-want-to