Big 12 in 2016

[Lobot]

This includes some quotes from a Barry Tramel article in the Oklahoman yesterday as well:

http://footballscoop.com/news/big-12...r-loving-mind/

and the actual article:

http://newsok.com/tramel-ou-not-anti...rticle/5520007

[Lobot]

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/coll...g-12-expansion

http://www.mystatesman.com/news/spor...ef=cbTopWidget

[Lobot]

OK, so I'll try and recap yesterday. Article comes out saying Boren is saying that OU is a no vote against expansion. Boren issues a statement saying OU does not have a position yet. I believe Boren, because even though OU has had plenty of time to figure this out, the problem is still Texas and more specifically Houston. OU does not want Houston and Houston doesn't have enough votes. No one outside of the state Texas is going to vote for Houston or probably any of the Texas schools currently on the list as this would consolidate the power of Texas even further. I don't think that OU is ever going to capitulate to what Texas wants in this matter so it may matter more whether Texas can get enough votes from the other non Texas schools for Houston at this point.

I don't think BYU is dead in the water completely but If they don't make some sort of move with the Honor Code situation by Oct. 17, They're going to be a ship without a sail for sure.

I think if I'm OU at this point, I let this die and go to the B1G in 2025 and call it a day. Let Texas twist in the wind.

[longtimefan]

Enough with the negativism! Tuxedo Yoda tweeted today UH, UC and 2 others will be announced after b12 oct. meetings. Heck, he's even a texas guy. Ha!

Yeah, but this guy is almost always wrong. He is just not a reliable source. The fact that all concerned schools have been so tight lipped, except for Boren, leads me to believe that all these outsiders claiming to have inside information are just not worth paying attention to. For example if you follow Flugaur he was absolutely convinced for months and months that it was UC and UConn and it was a done deal, but he didn't have any more to go on than you and me, just an educated guess like everybody else. If we start hearing anything from Kirk Bohls or Chuck Carleton or Brent McMurphy that would be a different story. At this point I'm resigned to the fact that the Big 12 won't expand, and if so that's OK with me.

[bearcatjd]

My goodness I hope so. I think 4 teams would help the B12 more so that 2 new teams. Let's get this over with. It's driving me wacko!!!

[coach]

Enough with the negativism! Tuxedo Yoda tweeted today UH, UC and 2 others will be announced after b12 oct. meetings. Heck, he's even a texas guy. Ha!

[red_n_black_attack]

http://www.campusrush.com/big-12-exp...018459914.html Finally someone acknowledges that the "little 8" may not have a home. It also points out that you do not poke the bear (UT/OK).

And then there were four...... http://dailycampus.com/stories/2016/...pansion-part-2 (interesting that Houston was a three-way tie for six and with a tie-breaker made the group of 6 from the last elimination voting).

The first article makes an excellent point that if there is a push to four 16 team super conferences, then there are only 10 spots up for grabs. For political and added value reasons I believe Texas, OU, KU, OSU, TCU, WVU, and TT may find a spot with the iffy ones being OSU and TT. Assuming those two don't get a spot, that would leave five open slots for the BYU's, Boise States, UConn, UH, UC and others. In that scenario, it'd be very possible UC gets left out because we aren't a fit for the PAC-12/16. OU and OSU could easily go to the SEC, the ACC could pick up WVU and UConn leaving the fate of UC in the decision UT has between the B!G or the PAC (not a tough choice really). The B!G could add KU and UT, then the SEC, ACC, and B!G all stand at 16 teams leaving UC whimpering on the outside.

I don't know which would be worse, the Big 12 expands without UC or the Big 12 doesn't expand and the super conferences form without us.

[bearcatbret]

http://www.campusrush.com/big-12-exp...018459914.html Finally someone acknowledges that the "little 8" may not have a home. It also points out that you do not poke the bear (UT/OK).

And then there were four...... http://dailycampus.com/stories/2016/...pansion-part-2 (interesting that Houston was a three-way tie for six and with a tie-breaker made the group of 6 from the last elimination voting).

[Bearcats1232002]

This is an exercise in media trying to push their agenda. There are several recent articles out there that say the Big 12 needs to poach Big 5 teams. One stated that they should go after Pitt and UL. That is fine with me because the ACC would need to replace those teams with two and the most likely would be UC and UConn. It has become a joke.

With the ACC network and the Grant of Rights deal through 2036 it is virtually impossible for ACC teams to leave so that ship has sailed. That is why the Big 12 was now willing to consider teams from the AAC.

[bearcatbret]

This is an exercise in media trying to push their agenda. There are several recent articles out there that say the Big 12 needs to poach Big 5 teams. One stated that they should go after Pitt and UL. That is fine with me because the ACC would need to replace those teams with two and the most likely would be UC and UConn. It has become a joke.

[coach]

If the AAC had a commissioner and a lobbying staff with some balls and foresight, they would seize this opportunity ( or already working on it) to start lining up BIG 12 schools (not named Texas) and various others to create a 16 team conference worthy of power conference status and ESPN/FOX money.

Yes, he can take his loaf of bread and 3 fish and put that together.

[red_n_black_attack]

If the AAC had a commissioner and a lobbying staff with some balls and foresight, they would seize this opportunity ( or already working on it) to start lining up BIG 12 schools (not named Texas) and various others to create a 16 team conference worthy of power conference status and ESPN/FOX money.

That would be justice, Texas style! The AAC adds BYU, OU, OSU, KU, ISU, and KSU. They still recruit heavily from Texas high schools.

[slimm]

If the AAC had a commissioner and a lobbying staff with some balls and foresight, they would seize this opportunity ( or already working on it) to start lining up BIG 12 schools (not named Texas) and various others to create a 16 team conference worthy of power conference status and ESPN/FOX money.

[TheDog]

I think I'm done making predictions even though it's fun to speculate. I thought for sure BYU was a slam dunk a few weeks ago considering they check all the boxes and Gordon Gee's affiliation with the Mormon church and ties to BYU. We'll see how this plays out. Hopefully, this thing is settled next month. One thing I discovered over the past few months is that the AAC is not a bad conference and should be paid more for tv rights.

[Rational Cat]

Texas politics is inbred. There I said it.

Well, they've never been known to play well with others.