Big 12 in 2016

[Lobot]

Saw yesterday where Tulane is the only school to ever leave the SEC in 1950.

[Lobot]

Last night from Dennis Dodds at CBS:

http://www.cbssports.com/college-foo...n-by-expanding


This morning from Pat Forde at Yahoo: (autoplay video)

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/if-big-...872-ncaaf.html

[Lobot]

Here's the BIg 12 media page. There's a video recap with Bowlsby and the press conference from last night on here (site is slow):

https://www.nmnathletics.com//club/s...BIO_PLAYER_ID=

[Bearcats1232002]

Saw yesterday where Tulane is the only school to ever leave the SEC in 1950.

I wonder if Tulane regrets that now?

[red_n_black_attack]

Last night from Dennis Dodds at CBS:

http://www.cbssports.com/college-foo...n-by-expanding


This morning from Pat Forde at Yahoo: (autoplay video)

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/if-big-...872-ncaaf.html

The Longhorns are delusional and this is holding back the conference. I really must commend Boren for looking out for the interests of the entire conference and not just Oklahoma. OU has chosen to make this conference work or they'd be in the PAC-12 (14 or 16) by now. Perhaps the time has come for OU to step up it's game and commitment to the Big 12 conference - it's time to propose ejecting Texas from the conference. Both Texas and OU will find a soft landing spot if the Big 12 implodes and it seems OU wants to prevent the Big 12 from imploding while Texas doesn't care as long as the LHN rakes in money and they can laugh all the way to the bank from the B!G or the SEC.

Eject Texas and add both SMU and Houston, BYU, UC and Memphis (or UConn) to get to fourteen teams effective Jul 1, 2016. The new schools will be probationary members and the billion$ can be readily split between the nine remaining schools (offer TCU and WVU full shares now instead of making them wait another year or two).

This is of course a pipedream, but it may be the only threat that will make Texas listen and then they may still choose ejection now rather than later. Although, I can't see either the B!G or the SEC welcoming the LHN. I think the NBC contract was one of the reasons ND didn't fit into the B!G when they added Penn State ( one of many reasons).

[coach]

Unfortunately they are not delusional, but just holding all the cards. Given they were allowed to cut their own deal, they can sit back and only accept deals that will enhance their situation. Committing themselves to longer terms, anything less than revenue enhancements isn't something they need to rush into. Unless there is a breech, i seriously doubt the rest of the members can disassociate themselves from their texas affiliation unless they pay them to go away.

[red_n_black_attack]

Unfortunately they are not delusional, but just holding all the cards. Given they were allowed to cut their own deal, they can sit back and only accept deals that will enhance their situation. Committing themselves to longer terms, anything less than revenue enhancements isn't something they need to rush into. Unless there is a breech, i seriously doubt the rest of the members can disassociate themselves from their texas affiliation unless they pay them to go away.

Texas may be holding the cards, but the conference holds their seat at the table... Whether it is spite, prestige, or seeking a competitive advantage, Texas is keeping other conference members from getting any cards or cash. There isn't an I in team. If the rest of the conference could survive with current or new tv deal, then there has to be a way to disassociate themselves from Austin without paying for it.

[red_n_black_attack]

https://twitter.com/gswaim

Greg Swaim reporting 8-2 vote for expansion. Any other confirmation? Is this where school lean or is this a real vote?

[Lobot]

Not a real vote. Have no idea where he pulled that from. His stuff is usually BS. Seems to be a pattern with the guys from WV.

[Lobot]

Dallas paper this morning:

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/coll...12s-future?f=r

[FBBBUCfan]

Someone help me with this: say you're TCU and TxT. Sure UT got TCU in over drinks and winks. But for the love of all that's holy, if you're those two schools, looking at the very possible extinction of your gravy train, why in the heck would you put in blindly with Texas? That makes no sense to me. What does Texas hold over their heads that makes them so lock step with UT? Is there some double-secret agreement they signed? If one or both violate that, what can UT do to them? Truly. Don't. Get. It.

But then, even Hitler had his followers. I guess that's the answer.

[Lobot]

Big 12 presser for today has been pushed back to 6:30 ish local time . Boren and Bowlsby to speak. AD meetingd are running long and I'm going to miss this thing. Chime in.

[Lobot]

Someone help me with this: say you're TCU and TxT. Sure UT got TCU in over drinks and winks. But for the love of all that's holy, if you're those two schools, looking at the very possible extinction of your gravy train, why in the heck would you put in blindly with Texas? That makes no sense to me. What does Texas hold over their heads that makes them so lock step with UT? Is there some double-secret agreement they signed? If one or both violate that, what can UT do to them? Truly. Don't. Get. It.

But then, even Hitler had his followers. I guess that's the answer.

Texas deal making is something special. It's all about backchannel connections and money. You screw UT, you effectively screw yourself with any regard to state funds via the legislature. They are vindictive about it here. UT isn't in the same city as the capital of Texas for nothing.

[blackattack]

Texas deal making is something special. It's all about backchannel connections and money. You screw UT, you effectively screw yourself with any regard to state funds via the legislature. They are vindictive about it here. UT isn't in the same city as the capital of Texas for nothing.

In other words, UT is pretty much the same as we have here in Columbus with O$U. No doubt the same kind of "deals" are cut there as they are in Columbus.......i.e. complimentary field passes for O$U football games and front row basketball seats at Schottenstein Center for all Ohio Congressmen who vote to take care of the state's Flagship University. And that's just a small sample of the crap that goes on in Columbus.

[Lobot]

In other words, UT is pretty much the same as we have here in Columbus with O$U. No doubt the same kind of "deals" are cut there as they are in Columbus.......i.e. complimentary field passes for O$U football games and front row basketball seats at Schottenstein Center for all Ohio Congressmen who vote to take care of the state's Flagship University. And that's just a small sample of the crap that goes on in Columbus.

Without getting too deep into politics, I think you might be underestimating the level of graft in Texas. I'm either more aware of it because I'm older or it's truly a different ballgame down here. There's a lot more than backscratching going on down here. Both states have political appointees as Board members so that's pretty even.

Just to tie this back into expansion, Texas Tech could reasonably stand to lose a significant amount of state funding by ticking off the wrong people in the legislature. The board of Regents of both Tech and UT are made of of a combination of business leaders, lawyers and political operatives much like the ones in Ohio. The difference maybe in that there has been no Democratic Governor here in Texas since Ann Richards in 1990. So all the political operatives on both boards are Republicans from W., Rick Perry and Greg Abbott's administrations. Nothing wrong with that but it means that both boards of Tech and Texas lean almost completely conservative and as such are going to be resistant to change the status quo in general, not just in football. Nobody likes to to have the money train's schedule interrupted.