All Things Fickell

[Bearcat1996]

ND might be grooming Mike Mickens for us.

I could get behind that one. Our current coach doesn't move the needle.

[leo from jersey]

I'd love to think if ND hired Luke, then we'd have had Marcus. Oh well, it would've been nice

ND might be grooming Mike Mickens for us.

[red_n_black_attack]

Could it be that CLF informed them that he would remain loyal to the team due to being in the CFP. ND needed to move quickly for recruiting etc. so they went with Freeman. It turned out good.

I'd love to think if ND hired Luke, then we'd have had Marcus. Oh well, it would've been nice

[leo from jersey]

The AD pretty much said they didn't look outside in their search, and focused on Marcus quickly. Here is the video ND released. It was 2-3 day process. Other candidates were considered and few even interviewed, but Luke wasn't even rumored to be one of them.

https://www.uhnd.com/football/2021/1...arcus-freeman/

Could it be that CLF informed them that he would remain loyal to the team due to being in the CFP. ND needed to move quickly for recruiting etc. so they went with Freeman. It turned out good.

[red_n_black_attack]

How do you know that he was never in the running for the ND job? I am not being contentious, but I am interested. He was a Roman Catholic while Freeman converted. Not that it carries as much weight as it did decades ago.

The AD pretty much said they didn't look outside in their search, and focused on Marcus quickly. Here is the video ND released. It was 2-3 day process. Other candidates were considered and few even interviewed, but Luke wasn't even rumored to be one of them.

https://www.uhnd.com/football/2021/1...arcus-freeman/

[leo from jersey]

I am sorry. I inferred from this that you meant he could or should have been the HC of either team during the championship game, not some point in the past. I understand now that you meant he was tOSU coach at some point. He was never in the running for ND.

How do you know that he was never in the running for the ND job? I am not being contentious, but I am interested. He was a Roman Catholic while Freeman converted. Not that it carries as much weight as it did decades ago.

[red_n_black_attack]

Can you imagine having to watch the Championship game knowing he was and could have been HC for each team. Look at his situation today.

I am sorry. I inferred from this that you meant he could or should have been the HC of either team during the championship game, not some point in the past. I understand now that you meant he was tOSU coach at some point. He was never in the running for ND.

[leo from jersey]

I fully reject both arguments. ND didn't look beyond Marcus when BK left. Even if Luke was interested, the feeling wasn't mutual from ND. If ND called, Lukedidn't comprehend woulda jumped. They didn't and he saw the writing on the wall with the tOSU situation. Ryan was hand-picked by Urban Meyer and Luke never had a shot at his true dream job in Columbus. Once Luke came to terms with the fact Oh St or ND wouldn't call him, after turning down Arkansas, WVU, and a few others, he told his agent to reach out to midwest Big Ten teams and he jumped at Wisconsin. However, Wisky was the best option as the other two were simply dreams.

you still are not comprehending my post but jumping to your viewpoint. Where did I ever say CLF. was in the running for tOSU job after Meyer? I said he was at one time the HC. Concerning ND, they needed a coach right away and CLF was locked in with the Cats. Unless you have deep insider knowledge at ND, then we won't know if there were even feelers. What we do know is that you didn't comprehend my post about tOSU and put words in my mouth. You may have misunderstood, but I thought I was plain in my second post. My friend it is impossible to reject an argument unless you understand what the argument was. You jumped to conclusions and put your thoughts for what I actually wrote. I still wonder how CLF felt watching the game.

[red_n_black_attack]

CLF was HC of tOSU as my post stated. I believe he would have been in major consideration for the ND had he not stayed at UC one more year. I wrote "knowing he was and could have been HC for each team". Interim or not he was HC at tOSU. His OSU team was decimated by the situation before he became HC. His successor was picked well before the announcement and that also caused his authority to be rejected at OSU. Now can we imagine CLF's emotion watching that game.

I fully reject both arguments. ND didn't look beyond Marcus when BK left. Even if Luke was interested, the feeling wasn't mutual from ND. If ND called, Luke woulda jumped. They didn't and he saw the writing on the wall with the tOSU situation. Ryan was hand-picked by Urban Meyer and Luke never had a shot at his true dream job in Columbus. Once Luke came to terms with the fact Oh St or ND wouldn't call him, after turning down Arkansas, WVU, and a few others, he told his agent to reach out to midwest Big Ten teams and he jumped at Wisconsin. However, Wisky was the best option as the other two were simply dreams.

[leo from jersey]

Fickell couldn't have had either of those jobs. ND likely goes outside the fold if MArcus wasn't sitting there all gift wrapped. Fickell left Ohio State because the boosters essentially told him he wasn't getting another shot after the dismal performance his one year filling in as interim HC after Cooper left.

CLF was HC of tOSU as my post stated. I believe he would have been in major consideration for the ND had he not stayed at UC one more year. I wrote "knowing he was and could have been HC for each team". Interim or not he was HC at tOSU. His OSU team was decimated by the situation before he became HC. His successor was picked well before the announcement and that also caused his authority to be rejected at OSU. Now can we imagine CLF's emotion watching that game.

[red_n_black_attack]

Can you imagine having to watch the Championship game knowing he was and could have been HC for each team. Look at his situation today.

Fickell couldn't have had either of those jobs. ND likely goes outside the fold if MArcus wasn't sitting there all gift wrapped. Fickell left Ohio State because the boosters essentially told him he wasn't getting another shot after the dismal performance his one year filling in as interim HC after Cooper left.

[leo from jersey]

Can you imagine having to watch the Championship game knowing he was and could have been HC for each team. Look at his situation today.

[red_n_black_attack]

They never submitted the paperwork because....... Lucas signed a 2 year NIL contract and is in potential breach. Incoming lawyers.

https://sports.yahoo.com/former-wisc...222228590.html

I'm hopeful Wisconsin wins this case and forces the player to finish his contract in Madison. It would clear the way for multi-year NIL deals and at least slow the flow of one-year contracts, and crazy free agency.

[Lobot]

They never submitted the paperwork because....... Lucas signed a 2 year NIL contract and is in potential breach. Incoming lawyers.

https://sports.yahoo.com/former-wisc...222228590.html

[swilsonsp4]

Yeah I know, and Lucas is claiming they never actually submitted the paperwork. Something is rotten in Denmark.

That's easy enough to prove, as the documents go to the NCAA for all schools to view on-line.