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  • Bubble Watch / Bracketology

    It is time.

    The NCAA First Four games begin seven weeks from today in Dayton, so we are less than 50 days from the start of the NCAA Tournament.

    As of this morning, the Bearcats are very much on the bubble -- some bracketologists might have them slightly in, but most probably have them just barely out. There are plenty of resume wins available, but they need to seize the opportunities and try to avoid the few bad losses available.

    Positives:
    - Good metrics (31 KenPom, 32 NET among others)
    - No bad losses (11-0 in Q3/Q4 games)
    - Currently 2 Q1 wins (at BYU, home versus TCU*)
    - Good record: 14-6 and a respectable 3-4 in the best league

    Negatives:
    - Poor non-conference strength of schedule (0-2 versus Dayton, Xavier - the only true quality opponents faced)
    - 3-6 Q1/Q2 record (need more quality wins)
    - Several close losses/missed chances
    - There are 11 NCAA Tournament contenders in the Big 12 and UC may be at the bottom of that list

    * TCU is #30 in the NET and would drop to a Q2 win if they slide to 31 or below

    Traps
    - Two games versus West Virginia, #151 in the NET as of today (road game would be Q2 if top 135; home game would be Q4 if WVU slips below 160)
    - Home game versus #139 Oklahoma State (Q3)

    Opportunities:
    - Other remaining games: at Texas Tech (26 NET), Houston (1), Iowa State (10), at UCF (71), at TCU (30), at Houston (1), Kansas State (73), at Oklahoma (33) -- as of today, 7 Q1 games + Kansas State is a Q2 if KSU stays at 75 or above.
    - Big 12 Tournament -- any game will be Q1 or Q2 except, as of today, WVU and OSU


    ** Of course, the NET is just one metric and not the end all be all.

  • #2
    Yep. they just need to close some of these games out. if they win, they'll be in.

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    • #3
      Just to show where things stand...

      Monday CBS/Palm - not among first four out https://www.cbssports.com/college-ba.../bracketology/

      New Lundardi/ESPN - UC second team out https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/st...ld-predictions

      New USA Today - UC a 10 seed https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...t/72397819007/

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      • #4
        Some bubbly teams to keep an eye on:

        - Boise State
        - Butler
        - Colorado
        - Florida
        - Gonzaga
        - Kansas State **
        - Memphis
        - Michigan State
        - Mississippi
        - Nebraska
        - Nevada
        - Oregon
        - Providence
        - Seton Hall
        - Texas **
        - Texas A&M
        - Wake Forest
        - Villanova
        - Virginia
        - Virginia Tech
        - Washington State

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        • #5
          Originally posted by GoBearcats31 View Post
          Just to show where things stand...

          Monday CBS/Palm - not among first four out https://www.cbssports.com/college-ba.../bracketology/

          New Lundardi/ESPN - UC second team out https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/st...ld-predictions

          New USA Today - UC a 10 seed https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...t/72397819007/
          I think there's a legimate question on whether Lunardi and Palm are even good prognosticators anymore since the NCAA moved to the NET rankings. All of their reputations were based on the old RPI and I don't think they've changed their approach.
          Brent Wyrick
          92 Final Four Front Row
          @LobotC2DFW

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Lobot View Post

            I think there's a legimate question on whether Lunardi and Palm are even good prognosticators anymore since the NCAA moved to the NET rankings. All of their reputations were based on the old RPI and I don't think they've changed their approach.
            Yes, my understanding is they are not particularly accurate (Palm especially not) but they offer a good baseline and easy to digest ESPN, CBS, etc. versus some random Wordpress blog

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            • #7
              I suspect that MSU will make it in just because of Izzo and that they have the longest NCAA appearance streak.

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              • #8
                Byu a sixth seed at 15-5? Hmmm...I guess.

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                • #9
                  jerry palm in particular is always pessimistic about UC.

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                  • #10
                    Lunardi is 100% accurate ... five minutes after CBS airs the brackets and he's had a chance to scrub his latest version.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Longtime Lurker View Post
                      jerry palm in particular is always pessimistic about UC.
                      Purdue guy and we keep beating them.
                      Brent Wyrick
                      92 Final Four Front Row
                      @LobotC2DFW

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                      • #12
                        Perhaps more than anything else outside of our control, UCF staying in the top 75 NET will be crucial. That essentially keeps a Q1 game from falling to Q3 (it will be a Q1 road and Q2 home game if they are top 75, or Q2 road and Q3 home if they are not).

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                        • #13
                          Lunardi is ranked #98 out of 174 bracketologists who have submitted brackets in at least 3 of the last 5 years on bracketmatrix. He's below average. Palm is even worse at #142. The best performer is bracketmatrix itself, with the composite wisdom of the crowd outperforming any individual.

                          I don't think Lunardi's underperformace has much to do with the switch from RPI to NET. The team sheet concept is still the same as it used to be, just using a different ranking system that accounts for margin of victory. I think it's just that we are more aware of other projections than we were 10+ years ago. It's easy to get 98% right every year (which is what ESPN touts) even if you're clueless. Generally only the last four in are controversial. Even if you get all of those wrong, you still have 64/68 right, which is 94%.

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                          • #14
                            The Georgia Tech win over UNC has to help the Bearcats a little. At 10-11, they are 134 in the Net. Maybe they can pull off a few more ACC upsets.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by red_n_black_attack View Post
                              The Georgia Tech win over UNC has to help the Bearcats a little. At 10-11, they are 134 in the Net. Maybe they can pull off a few more ACC upsets.
                              Georgia Tech now up to...128!

                              Weird resume. 10-11 as you point out. Wins over two current top 10 teams (UNC, Duke plus potential tourney teams in Miss State and Clemson). Beating them alone may not be a lot, but our margin of victory could certainly stand out.

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