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  • bearcattom
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    • Mar 2007
    • 327

    #76
    Ok, floating idea on return to football independence....

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    • Rock
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      • Nov 2007
      • 430

      #77
      Heaven Forbid

      Loserville has just turned in to Winnerville as UC sits on the sidelines!

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      • RedRocker
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        • Nov 2008
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        #78
        Not a shocker, but I think this article hints at the reason behind Louisville now vs. UConn and us. I don't think this is over by any means with the SEC and B1G still sniffing around some ACC schools like UVA, VT, CU, GT and FSU.

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        • Rational Cat
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          • Nov 2009
          • 696

          #79
          Some of this is just circumstance and poor luck, but I am ticked off this morning, and want to know how much of this can be blamed on Greg Williams and his efforts to hold the crumbling Big East together.

          Was he working to move us to a better situation at all? We may never know the answer to that question. I feel like UC got a very late start on looking out for it's future in conference play.

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          • Rock
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            • Nov 2007
            • 430

            #80
            It Stinks

            This decision smells of Rick Pitino. He carries alot of weight!

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            • ccur5743
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              • Oct 2007
              • 76

              #81
              I will be a fan of this team no matter what happens. However, it seems like playing one season in the "new" Big East (once the other schools leave for the ACC/B10) will kill whatever momentum we have built in regards to a fan base for football. Hopefully we aren't around long enough for that to happen...

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              • Big Herm
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                • Feb 2008
                • 140

                #82
                Originally posted by RedRocker
                Not a shocker, but I think this article hints at the reason behind Louisville now vs. UConn and us. I don't think this is over by any means with the SEC and B1G still sniffing around some ACC schools like UVA, VT, CU, GT and FSU.

                http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-bas...-john-swafford
                Because of a one year swing in the success of their football program? I don't buy it. It doesn't fit any of the arguments people make for conference expansion- contiguous footprint and significant expansion of tv markets.

                My feeling is it was a pre-emptive move to block the Big 12 from limiting their options down the road and that UConn and or UC will follow when things heat up again.

                At least that's what I'm telling myself...
                McMicken College of Arts & Sciences 1999

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                • RedRocker
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                  • Nov 2008
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                  #83
                  Originally posted by Rock
                  This decision smells of Rick Pitino. He carries alot of weight!
                  Well....Louisville BB history certainly didn't hurt them at all. I'm not going to blame Pitino. The ACC will be looking for more schools down the road as they are the most likely conference to get raided again by the SEC and B1G. It's a matter of time for UC and UConn and maybe USF. Louisville could become our greatest ally within the ACC now. The SN article lays it out that UL might have had options with the B12 and thats why they grabbed only them for NOW.

                  UL and RU are both now talking about playing in the ACC and B1G, respectively, by 2014. A lot has happened since 2010 and I think a lot will happen by 2014 with UC in the mix. We need to be patient and continue to support our school and teams. Unlike President Williams, I don't think President Ono is content to ride the sinking ship down.

                  My question is how will this news effect the new schools, primarily Boise, joining. This could be the straw that broke the camel's back for them.
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                  • RedRocker
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                    • Nov 2008
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                    #84
                    Originally posted by Big Herm
                    Because of a one year swing in the success of their football program? I don't buy it. It doesn't fit any of the arguments people make for conference expansion- contiguous footprint and significant expansion of tv markets.

                    My feeling is it was a pre-emptive move to block the Big 12 from limiting their options down the road and that UConn and or UC will follow when things heat up again.

                    At least that's what I'm telling myself...
                    You missed my point. It was indeed a preemptive strike to block the B12 from grabbing UL. I agree that UC and UConn and possibly USF will be in play once the carousel starts up again.
                    RIP #12 Greg Cook (1946-2012)

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                    • Bearcat22
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                      • Dec 2009
                      • 38

                      #85
                      Well, where do we go from here? Obviously The BE knows we want out and now we are suppose to act like everything is okay. I'm afraid B1G wont expand for at least a year. The only reason the B12 will expand is they are being pushed by ESPN.
                      Last edited by Bearcat22; 11-28-2012, 09:11 AM.

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                      • Big Herm
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                        • Feb 2008
                        • 140

                        #86
                        Originally posted by RedRocker
                        You missed my point. It was indeed a preemptive strike to block the B12 from grabbing UL. I agree that UC and UConn and possibly USF will be in play once the carousel starts up again.
                        My bad. Hoping you're right. You have to think our academics and TV market would be somewhat appealing to the ACC.
                        McMicken College of Arts & Sciences 1999

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                        • RedRocker
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                          • Nov 2008
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                          #87
                          Originally posted by ccur5743
                          I will be a fan of this team no matter what happens. However, it seems like playing one season in the "new" Big East (once the other schools leave for the ACC/B10) will kill whatever momentum we have built in regards to a fan base for football. Hopefully we aren't around long enough for that to happen...
                          The new BE needs to stick to their guns and hold UL and RU here through the 27 month period which would keep them here through 2014-2015. Unless of course, we are headed out the door with them.
                          RIP #12 Greg Cook (1946-2012)

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                          • DBrentonBuck
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                            • Aug 2007
                            • 267

                            #88
                            Here is going to be the issue... it is going to be super hard to recruit for any sports programs now. If you are from the area, why would you want to go to the Big East when the SEC, ACC and B1G are just a couple hours away? If you are an up and coming coach, why would you come here? The Big East is not really going to be a step up from MAC and CUSA anymore. How many people who are not already a fan are going to get excited about this team playing Tulane, Temple, Memphis etc. in football?

                            I fear it is going to be near impossible to build on the success of the past years and every year that passes will make us less and less attractive to any other conference.

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                            • ccur5743
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                              • Oct 2007
                              • 76

                              #89
                              Originally posted by RedRocker
                              The new BE needs to stick to their guns and hold UL and RU here through the 27 month period which would keep them here through 2014-2015. Unless of course, we are headed out the door with them.
                              Or we take the BCS bid since everyone will be gone..then leave! Just need something to keep us relevant until our turn comes.

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                              • RedRocker
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                                #90
                                Originally posted by Bearcat22
                                Well, where do we go from here? Obviously The BE knows we want out and now we are suppose to act like everything is okay. I'm afraid B1G wont expand for at least a year. The only reason the B12 will expand is they are being pushed by ESPN.
                                Everybody else has played the same game in the BE. It's every man for himself in this crazy game. Don't think others aren't doing the same thing albeit not so publicly.
                                RIP #12 Greg Cook (1946-2012)

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