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  • RedRocker
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    • Nov 2008
    • 2180

    #31
    For those of you suggesting a move to the MAC, I encourage you to take a drive up to Oxford and watch a Miami vs. EMU or WMU or Ball State game. That's exactly what Nippert would look like if we joined the MAC.

    I've watched a lot of bad football @ Nippert and Riverfront over the past 35+ years with the hope that the program would ascend to the level that it is now. I will continue to wait patiently for that invite from the ACC or B12, but going back to the MAC IS NOT AN OPTION. I will not be a season ticket holder like I have been for the past 20+ seasons if that occurs because that is the same as waving a white flag.

    Those of you who desire the MAC are short-sighted and small-minded. I prefer to think big picture. I would hate to think all of my time and money spent supporting this program was wasted just to see us return to the MAC. We are better than that!
    RIP #12 Greg Cook (1946-2012)

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    • East side Bearcat
      Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 57

      #32
      I agree and disagree... My point is the America 12 is no better than the mac. That's my standpoint. You font think uc will play in empty stadiums vs Tulane? Tulsa? It's as broad as it is long.

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      • swilsonsp4
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        • Apr 2007
        • 5062

        #33
        Originally posted by East side Bearcat
        I agree and disagree... My point is the America 12 is no better than the mac. That's my standpoint. You font think uc will play in empty stadiums vs Tulane? Tulsa? It's as broad as it is long.
        Yes, the A12 will be better than the MAC, in virtually every respect. As I stated above, there are dogs in both conferences, but more in the MAC. Is the A12 ideal? No. This isn't going to be permanent. Further conference alignment is ahead at some point, as soon as Jim Delaney gets itchy to add to his BTN value.

        As for anyone who would like to transfer to the MAC (permanently or as an interim port in a storm), maybe you could pony up the $10M A12 exit fee. Of course, if you want in the MAC earlier than the 27-month waiting period allows, $10M would be a paltry sum, by comparison; not to mention the legal fees associated with the negotiations. I'd rather sit tight in a better overall league (particularly in basketball), then spend the exit dollars getting into the ACC. Or, do you expect to pay to go to the MAC, then the ACC later?
        Last edited by swilsonsp4; 03-08-2013, 01:46 PM.

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        • East side Bearcat
          Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 57

          #34
          As I mentioned earlier, were in a death trap... If uconn is poached, then what????

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          • jplog
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            • Apr 2007
            • 902

            #35
            Who cares what they call it. Hopefully, we won't be there long enough to even notice.

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            • RedRocker
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              • Nov 2008
              • 2180

              #36
              Originally posted by East side Bearcat
              As I mentioned earlier, were in a death trap... If uconn is poached, then what????
              Where's UConn going? There's debate if they would even go with UC to the ACC especially if FSU goes somewhere. It could be UC and USF. I think they have a decent program, but Syracuse and BC bring the NE TV markets.

              There's still some bad blood between UConn and BC, VT. That's one of the reasons UL got the invite over UConn.
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              • RedRocker
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                • Nov 2008
                • 2180

                #37
                Originally posted by jplog
                Who cares what they call it. Hopefully, we won't be there long enough to even notice.
                Yep. Exactly.
                RIP #12 Greg Cook (1946-2012)

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                • bearcattom
                  Member
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 327

                  #38
                  Coaching

                  It will be interesting what effect this has on the coaches ability to recruit...particularly in basketball.

                  After this season, I would not be surprised if Cronin is approached again.

                  The other jobs will likely look much more attractive than in the past.

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                  • Bearcat1996
                    Distinguished Member
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 686

                    #39
                    Originally posted by East side Bearcat
                    As I mentioned earlier, were in a death trap... If uconn is poached, then what????
                    The MAC would be the ultimate "death trap". We have to think big-picture. UC will land in a decent conference when the dust settles. UC will never play in the MAC, so quit thinking about it.

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                    • East side Bearcat
                      Member
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 57

                      #40
                      To be clear, I'm not thinking about the mac. My entire argument is that we might as well be in the mac. This new conference is on shaky ground from the start, uc uconn and usf want out... If any of those 3 leave, then yes, this conference is no better than the mac.

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                      • RedRocker
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                        • Nov 2008
                        • 2180

                        #41
                        Originally posted by bearcattom
                        It will be interesting what effect this has on the coaches ability to recruit...particularly in basketball.

                        After this season, I would not be surprised if Cronin is approached again.

                        The other jobs will likely look much more attractive than in the past.
                        Huggins seemed to do fine with recruiting in the Metro, Great Midwest and C-USA. Memphis does just fine also. Mick's bigger problem is recruiting and developing big guys plus a better offensive game plan. If Mick wants to leave, I'm sure we'd be able to find another quality coach that may be better than Mick.

                        Football will be the issue if we don't get an invite to the ACC within a couple of years.
                        RIP #12 Greg Cook (1946-2012)

                        Red Rocker
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                        • bearcattom
                          Member
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 327

                          #42
                          Originally posted by RedRocker
                          Huggins seemed to do fine with recruiting in the Metro, Great Midwest and C-USA. Memphis does just fine also. Mick's bigger problem is recruiting and developing big guys plus a better offensive game plan. If Mick wants to leave, I'm sure we'd be able to find another quality coach that may be better than Mick.

                          Football will be the issue if we don't get an invite to the ACC within a couple of years.
                          True...although there is much more $ in college athletics now and the haves/have nots gap is wider.

                          Spending today watching football practice @ the Nip and then shoddy angled seats @ 5/3....everything really set in. The facilities do not feel big time. Until both are fixed...other places will look more attractive.

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                          • RedRocker
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                            • Nov 2008
                            • 2180

                            #43
                            Back on topic here.

                            Sounds like my suggestion all along, Big Metro Athletic Conference (Big MAC), is picking up steam.

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                            I like it, but In-n-Out (Burger) Conference was growing on me. I guess any hamburger joint support would be good.
                            RIP #12 Greg Cook (1946-2012)

                            Red Rocker
                            CoB '90 MBA '04

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                            • CaptainProbasco
                              Distinguished Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 711

                              #44
                              Originally posted by RedRocker
                              Back on topic here.

                              Sounds like my suggestion all along, Big Metro Athletic Conference (Big MAC), is picking up steam.

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                              I like it, but In-n-Out (Burger) Conference was growing on me. I guess any hamburger joint support would be good.
                              If they named it Burger Conference, there's a certain Cincinnati beer brand that could be the sponsor! Vas you ever in Zinzinnati?
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                              • 1977 BearCat
                                Distinguished Member
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 531

                                #45
                                Originally posted by CaptainProbasco
                                If they named it Burger Conference, there's a certain Cincinnati beer brand that could be the sponsor! Vas you ever in Zinzinnati?
                                My father worked for Burger. I think I have some Burger promotional material that might say that.

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