Big 12 in 2016

[98bearcat]

That is a whole lot more than the initial 6-8 teams that included BYU and 5-7 teams from the AAC. Initial reports had Colorado State and Air Force out. The Big 12 sure does now how to drag things out to optimize coverage. I am not sure if they are playing the schools or playing the TV partners.

Probably Both. I think the Big12 decided to create the 20-team evaluation process to snub the TV networks and prove they will go out and look at whoever they want and of course using the schools to create as much media attention on the Big12 as possible, positive or negative all publicity is good in their eyes.

[bearcatbret]

So yesterday it was short listed to 6 schools now today it is 12 schools. Does anyone really know what they are talking about? It seems to me that with the gag order, the news media just keep making things up and then repeating other outlets stories.

[Lobot]

Hold up. We need to add one. Rice University is still in the hunt apparently. Seems like Texas is trying to get the SWC back together.

[bearcatbret]

So, UT can leave the Big 12 and remake the Big 8 with the following.

1. UT
2. Baylor
3. Texas Tech
4. TCU
5. Houston
6. Rice
7. SMU
8. UTSA, Texas State, Texas Southern
9. Maybe Tulane

Then the remaining Big 12 can add UC, BYU, UConn, USF, UCF, Memphis.

[richard k.]

So, UT can leave the Big 12 and remake the Big 8 with the following.

1. UT
2. Baylor
3. Texas Tech
4. TCU
5. Houston
6. Rice
7. SMU
8. UTSA, Texas State, Texas Southern
9. Maybe Tulane

Then the remaining Big 12 can add UC, BYU, UConn, USF, UCF, Memphis.

Just a minor correction - that isn't the old Big 8 it's very close to the old SW conference that went out of business because nobody outside the state of Texas (except for Arkansas) gave a hoot about it. The Big 8 absorbed 4 of their teams, became the Big 12, and they found out that was such a good deal that 3 of the original 8 left. UT is such a wonderful partner that A&M jumped ship the first really good chance they had. Beggars can't be choosers, but I would so much rather be in the ACC than this nut job amalgam called the current Big 12.

[red_n_black_attack]

Just a minor correction - that isn't the old Big 8 it's very close to the old SW conference that went out of business because nobody outside the state of Texas (except for Arkansas) gave a hoot about it. The Big 8 absorbed 4 of their teams, became the Big 12, and they found out that was such a good deal that 3 of the original 8 left. UT is such a wonderful partner that A&M jumped ship the first really good chance they had. Beggars can't be choosers, but I would so much rather be in the ACC than this nut job amalgam called the current Big 12.

It is for this very reason, the Big 12 will survive. Texas' antics won't be accepted by the SEC or B1G and they were not acceptable to the PAC. UT will not find a home outside the Big 12 nor will the Big 12 kick UT out.

I too think the ACC makes more sense, but the Big 12 is a great alternate landing spot. OU will stay if there is expansion and will leave in 2024 if there isn't expansion. OU won't allow the old SWC while they're there, but that's what'll happen when they leave.

Net: UC doesn't haven't anything to worry about. If we are invited, it will not be to a retro version of the SWC. If we aren't invited, the mess that it will become is someone else's problem. UC is part of the solution in two team expansion, not Rice, SMU, UH. UH can be part of solution in four team expansion, but the other three won't be Texas based schools.

[coach]

Yep, unless Texas cuts loose of that network, the other leagues really do not need to deal with that.

[red_n_black_attack]

Yep, unless Texas cuts loose of that network, the other leagues really do not need to deal with that.

I think it is more than the LHN...both Missouri and A&M would block adding them to SEC and Nebraska would rather leave the B!G than share it with Texas.Let's hope cooler heads prevail and the number of Texas schools in the second round of interviews is Texas playing nice for the politicians so they can say they tried, but failed. I'll grant that Houston is intriguing as they are a legitimate football school for the Big 12, in both terms of recent and past success, as well as the fact that while Houston is in Texas, the SEC owns that city.As long as UC is included, I'd have no issues with Houston being added. I'd understand, but not like if they added Houston and BYU without UC. I'd laugh at them if they added two or three old SWC Texas based schools no matter who else was added. I mean even a BYU/UH/UC and either Rice or SMU slate is really absurd. The whole issue I have with the Big 12 is the same issue Iowa State and others have, Texas is a single entity that acts like their vote carries the weight of 6 schools leading everyone to believe what they see, which is Texas cares about Texas and not the success of the other conference members.

[bearcatbret]

Just a minor correction - that isn't the old Big 8 it's very close to the old SW conference that went out of business because nobody outside the state of Texas (except for Arkansas) gave a hoot about it. The Big 8 absorbed 4 of their teams, became the Big 12, and they found out that was such a good deal that 3 of the original 8 left. UT is such a wonderful partner that A&M jumped ship the first really good chance they had. Beggars can't be choosers, but I would so much rather be in the ACC than this nut job amalgam called the current Big 12.

I was not saying that the old Big 8 is what I listed. I was just saying with a lot of cynicism nature, that TX deserves to be in a league of just TX schools. They can be the all ruling of the lesser schools of TX. The TX politicians can live with what they sow. I agree with others, most conferences would not take TX as is. In the Big 10, they would take a back seat to tosu and UM. In the SEC, they would take a back seat to 'Bama, LSU and others. The PAC would not take them and with ND associated with the ACC, the ACC would not take them. I am not sure if UT will ever be relevant again in the national picture. Today's youth looking for a school look for the current best thing. The longer that UT is out of the picture, the longer they will stay out of the picture. What coach are they going to steal? UH's coach?

[longtimefan]

Man I'm getting tire of all this delay, and I can't imagine why they are doing this unless there is no team with the necessary 8 votes and these last interviews are to address specific concerns. On the other hand because this was out in the open the rest of the AAC should not feel like they were stabbed in the back, which is exactly what Syracuse and Pittsburgh did to the Big East.

[red_n_black_attack]

28,520 is a decent crowd for UTMartin on a Thursday night in which it was one of those rare occasions we went head to head with a Bengals game. UComn had 29,000. While we all hoped the invites would've been sent before this game, it doesn't hurt to keep generating good data points.

[Lobot]

Fire the Hunger Games cannon. DMN is reporting that Memphis is out of contention

[longtimefan]

Per McMurphy Temple is out as well.

[Chewbacca2099]

I've seen us and byu or us and Houston for weeks now. While I'll be happy either way I hope it's 4 teams with one of the Florida schools and UCONN

[slimm]

So watching the Reds on Fox Sports Ohio and commercial comes on..... Its a 30 sec highlight reel of Big 12 football with the announcer saying 'Dont miss all the big games, Big 12 football all season long on Fox Sports Ohio!'..... Have they always been showing Big 12 games ? Or am I just reading to much into this? Or maybe a Freudian / Fox slip precursor...